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From: "Adam H. Kerman" <ahk@chinet.com>
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv
Subject: Re: John Roberts won't save Kilmar Armando Abrego Garcia
Date: Sun, 25 May 2025 22:17:26 -0000 (UTC)
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BTR1701  <atropos@mac.com> wrote:
>On May 25, 2025 at 12:16:32 PM PDT, ""Adam H. Kerman"" <ahk@chinet.com>
>wrote:
>
>> BTR1701  <atropos@mac.com> wrote:
>>> On May 25, 2025 at 11:46:20 AM PDT, "shawn" <nanoflower@notforg.m.a.i.l.com>
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>>  On Sun, 25 May 2025 18:14:16 -0000 (UTC), BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com>
>>>>  wrote:
>>>>  
>>>>>  On May 25, 2025 at 12:26:09 AM PDT, "shawn"
><nanoflower@notforg.m.a.i.l.com>
>>>>>  wrote:
>>>>>  
>>>>>>   On Sat, 24 May 2025 23:37:51 -0700, The Horny Goat <lcraver@home.ca>
>>>>>>   wrote:
>>>>>>   
>>>>>>>   On Tue, 8 Apr 2025 04:17:01 -0000 (UTC), BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com>
>>>>>>>   wrote:
>>>>>>>   
>>>>>>>>   You do realize the guys they're going after have already had
>>> their hearings
>>>>>>>>   and just ignored their deportation orders, right? Do we need
>to give them
>>>>>>>>   another hearing about the hearing? And then maybe a third hearing
>>> to examine
>>>>>>>>   the first and second hearings?
>>>>>>>   
>>>>>>>   If the guy already has had the hearing they're entitled to, what's
>>>>>>>   left other than execution of the deportation order?
>>>>>>>   
>>>>>>>   Perhaps he might be hauled into court to verify that the deportation
>>>>>>>   order is valid but at that point he gets cuffs and a one way trip to
>>>>>>>   either the airport or to the border right?
>>>>>>>   
>>>>>>>   You simply don't have the right to unlimited stays of warrants. I'm
>>>>>>>   all for due process but you don't have the right to come up with a new
>>>>>>>   excuse ad infinitum.
>>>>>>   
>>>>>>   Putting him into a maximum prison for life isn't exactly the same as
>>>>>>   deporting someone.
>>>>>  
>>>>>  He was deported to his home country. His home country had issues with his
>>>>>  gang
>>>>>  affiliation and imposed punishment for it under their laws.
>>>>  
>>>>  Ah, yes, the infamous MS 13 tattoo. Proof positive that some people,
>>>>  even Presidents, can be fooled but the simplest things.
>>> 
>>> No, the tattoos are ancillary, even though they do indeed have gang meaning,
>>> it's all the other evidence of his gang affiliation, both in the U.S. and in
>>> El Salvador, that got him thrown in prison back home.
>> 
>> It's so strange that none of this evidence can be presented in a court
>> of law respecting rights.
>
>It was presented in some court because the court records is where I read it
>documented.

There has been no indictment for the crimes the informant claimed he
committed in New York. There aren't other crimes as a gang member to
indict him for.