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From: Frank Krygowski <frkrygow@sbcglobal.net>
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Subject: Re: New York's Crackdown on Ebikes
Date: Mon, 26 May 2025 10:59:51 -0400
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On 5/26/2025 8:38 AM, AMuzi wrote:
> On 5/26/2025 4:16 AM, Catrike Ryder wrote:
>> On Sun, 25 May 2025 21:36:00 -0400, Frank Krygowski
>> <frkrygow@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>>
>>> New York Times article on police cracking down on ebike traffic
>>> violations. Let's see if this will get people past the paywall:
>>>
>>> https://www.nytimes.com/2025/05/24/nyregion/ebikes-scooters-cyclists- 
>>> nyc.html?unlocked_article_code=1.KE8.voH2.AOcHv0jrnp79&smid=url-share
>>
>>
>> “This is a direct attack on immigrant workers,” Ms. Guallpa said. “The
>> intent is to criminalize workers and to create a situation where our
>> communities could be targets for deportation.”
>>
>> Typical NYT woke nonsense...
>>
>> -- 
>> C'est bon
>> Soloman
> 
> +1 with the typical misdirection and conflation.
> 
> Legal Resident Aliens (taxpaying, working people who cannot vote) are 
> ignored, along with US citizens. Criminal illegal aliens who, by 
> Statute, cannot work and who are subject to summary deportation by the 
> same Statutes, are where her sympathies lie.

Damn. The right wing of this newsgroup is always on hair trigger!

The article contains over 2000 words. Of those, only about three 
paragraphs mention immigrant delivery workers. The rest deals with the 
disparity between ebike and car enforcement policies, noting that cars 
kill far, far more pedestrians. It doesn't even mention that NYC life is 
totally dominated by the negative effects of car traffic. Yet people are 
enraged about the comparatively minuscule effects of ebikes, and ebike 
riders are in some ways being treated more harshly than car drivers.

Look, I think ebike riders should ride legally. I think U.S. ebikes are 
too fast, and/or should be legally treated more like motorcycles - 
meaning integrated into traffic and kept off bike paths.

But you guys ignore all that, blinded by the brief mention of 
immigrants. You never fail to respond to right wing dog whistles, even 
if  you have to blow the whistle yourself.


-- 
- Frank Krygowski