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From: moviePig <nobody@nowhere.com>
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Subject: Re: [OT] Did you know that blacks built Stonehenge?
Date: Mon, 26 May 2025 11:33:35 -0400
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On 5/25/2025 9:02 PM, Rhino wrote:
> On 2025-05-25 6:29 PM, moviePig wrote:
>> On 5/25/2025 5:44 PM, Rhino wrote:
>>> On 2025-05-25 5:32 PM, moviePig wrote:
>>>> On 5/25/2025 4:52 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>>>> On May 25, 2025 at 12:56:44 PM PDT, "moviePig" <nobody@nowhere.com> 
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 5/25/2025 3:45 PM, Rhino wrote:
>>>>>>>   On 2025-05-25 2:35 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>>>>>>>   On May 25, 2025 at 8:16:43 AM PDT, "Rhino"
>>>>>>>>   <no_offline_contact@example.com>
>>>>>>>>   wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>   Leo Kearse provides examples of the nonsense that 
>>>>>>>>> schoolchildren in
>>>>>>>>>   Britain are being taught these days, including the 
>>>>>>>>> preposterous lie that
>>>>>>>>>   blacks built Stonehenge.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_59qWR2xLnA [8 minutes]
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>   I have no idea what they mean when they protest *in* Britain to
>>>>>>>>   'decolonize' academic curriculum.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>   Britain was never a colony. They were the colonizers. I could
>>>>>>>>   understand if
>>>>>>>>   they were protesting in India or some African country that was
>>>>>>>>   colonized by
>>>>>>>>   Britain, or even here in America, which used to be British 
>>>>>>>> colonies.
>>>>>>>>   But how
>>>>>>>>   do you 'decolonize' Britain itself? It was never a colony in 
>>>>>>>> the first
>>>>>>>>   place. It's a logical oxymoron.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>   And how do they claim at the same time that:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>   (1) Historical Britons were black, and
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>   (2) Britain stole all the wealth from Africa and India
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>   If the second part is true, then what's their gripe with white 
>>>>>>>> people?
>>>>>>>>   They should be bitching about all those black Britons that 
>>>>>>>> stole the
>>>>>>>> wealth of
>>>>>>>>   Africa.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>   Agreed: all of the claims made by the anti-whites are an flat- 
>>>>>>> out lies.
>>>>>>>   As such, they need to be removed from the history books so that 
>>>>>>> kids are
>>>>>>>   NOT taught this nonsense, otherwise they'll grow up actually 
>>>>>>> believing
>>>>>>>   it, making it that much harder to expunge in a future 
>>>>>>> generation. There
>>>>>>>   will be a genuine danger that this nonsense will be accepted as 
>>>>>>> fact
>>>>>>>   forever more.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> As usual, the flaw in the ointment is that there's no absolute 
>>>>>> arbiter
>>>>>> of Truth.
>>>>>
>>>>> There is with regard to the claim 'black people built Stonehenge', 
>>>>> FFS.
>>>>
>>>> If 'history books' were acknowledged to comprise merely a 
>>>> *predominant* view of past events, then they could rationally reject 
>>>> any absurdities. But real-world claims of 'unassailable truth' are 
>>>> never sustainable. E.g,, I'm guessing the blackHenge crowd have 
>>>> documents, too...
>>>>
>>>>
>>> Do you know when Stonehenge was built? Do you have any idea how many 
>>> people in that time and place were literate enough to create 
>>> documents? Did they even have a written language that long ago? And 
>>> that's assuming they had paper and ink to make records in the first 
>>> place. Or are you of the mind that they chiseled these records into 
>>> clay tablets? If so, do you have any reason to believe they knew how 
>>> to do that?
>>>
>>> Are you COMPLETELY clueless? Don't you understand that this claim of 
>>> black builders of Stonehenge is just a game of cultural appropriation 
>>> by "activists"? They want to feel like blacks were significant going 
>>> back to the earliest days of the country so they're simply claiming 
>>> to have been a major part of things all the way along.
>>
>> I'm not disputing longstanding accounts of Stonehenge 
> 
> You're not? Then why did you suggest the possibility of documentary 
> evidence supporting the idea that Stonehenge was built by blacks at a 
> time and place when it was extremely unlikely that a written language 
> even existed, let alone the means to record that written language?

To show that a basis for discounting, e.g., "absurd history" is hard to 
articulate, and thus, to legislate.


>> ...especially since the recent challenges do have a rather blatant 
>> p.c. aspect.  I'm suggesting we should question our blithe acceptance 
>> of "history". 
> 
> I have no idea what you are saying.
> 
>> Did you know that Texas classrooms are to display the Ten 
>> Commandments, justified because they're an historical part of our 
>> democracy?
>>
>>
> Yes, I saw a headline to that effect. As far as the Ten Commandments 
> being part of history, that is obviously true. There's also a reasonable 
> argument that the Ten Commandments were a basic set of laws that 
> informed later laws like the ones governing our respective countries and 
> the state of Texas. You're apparently clutching your pearls at the 
> thought of them being on the wall. Why?

Because it flouts "freedom from religion", and that scares some of us.