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From: AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org>
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Subject: Re: New York's Crackdown on Ebikes
Date: Mon, 26 May 2025 10:53:45 -0500
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On 5/26/2025 9:59 AM, Frank Krygowski wrote:
> On 5/26/2025 8:38 AM, AMuzi wrote:
>> On 5/26/2025 4:16 AM, Catrike Ryder wrote:
>>> On Sun, 25 May 2025 21:36:00 -0400, Frank Krygowski
>>> <frkrygow@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>> New York Times article on police cracking down on ebike 
>>>> traffic
>>>> violations. Let's see if this will get people past the 
>>>> paywall:
>>>>
>>>> https://www.nytimes.com/2025/05/24/nyregion/ebikes- 
>>>> scooters-cyclists- nyc.html? 
>>>> unlocked_article_code=1.KE8.voH2.AOcHv0jrnp79&smid=url- 
>>>> share
>>>
>>>
>>> “This is a direct attack on immigrant workers,” Ms. 
>>> Guallpa said. “The
>>> intent is to criminalize workers and to create a 
>>> situation where our
>>> communities could be targets for deportation.”
>>>
>>> Typical NYT woke nonsense...
>>>
>>> -- 
>>> C'est bon
>>> Soloman
>>
>> +1 with the typical misdirection and conflation.
>>
>> Legal Resident Aliens (taxpaying, working people who 
>> cannot vote) are ignored, along with US citizens. Criminal 
>> illegal aliens who, by Statute, cannot work and who are 
>> subject to summary deportation by the same Statutes, are 
>> where her sympathies lie.
> 
> Damn. The right wing of this newsgroup is always on hair 
> trigger!
> 
> The article contains over 2000 words. Of those, only about 
> three paragraphs mention immigrant delivery workers. The 
> rest deals with the disparity between ebike and car 
> enforcement policies, noting that cars kill far, far more 
> pedestrians. It doesn't even mention that NYC life is 
> totally dominated by the negative effects of car traffic. 
> Yet people are enraged about the comparatively minuscule 
> effects of ebikes, and ebike riders are in some ways being 
> treated more harshly than car drivers.
> 
> Look, I think ebike riders should ride legally. I think U.S. 
> ebikes are too fast, and/or should be legally treated more 
> like motorcycles - meaning integrated into traffic and kept 
> off bike paths.
> 
> But you guys ignore all that, blinded by the brief mention 
> of immigrants. You never fail to respond to right wing dog 
> whistles, even if  you have to blow the whistle yourself.
> 
> 

I did not inject the comment into the original piece and I 
didn't edit it to ensure that unrelated comment made it to 
press.

But since it was there, I commented on that non germane 
reference.

I agree that wheeled vehicles ought to operate in traffic 
under uniform traffic law.  And also that laws ought to be 
more or less uniformly enforced as far as practical/possible.

Good luck with that, as far as persuading your average 
cyclist (under a minute):

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/ThOFx0UnkWI

-- 
Andrew Muzi
am@yellowjersey.org
Open every day since 1 April, 1971