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From: William Hyde <wthyde1953@gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: 25 Classic Books That Have Been Banned
Date: Mon, 26 May 2025 15:36:00 -0400
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Paul S Person wrote:
> On 25 May 2025 17:09:01 GMT, ram@zedat.fu-berlin.de (Stefan Ram)
> wrote:
> 
>> Paul S Person <psperson@old.netcom.invalid> wrote or quoted:
>>> This is after the creation of the New Heaven and New Earth. Who can
>>> say what their physics may look like?
>>
>>   From a philosophy angle, miracles are possible, since all the
>>   laws of nature come from stuff we have seen before and just
>>   describe what happened back then. We can only guess those same
>>   laws will hold up down the road, but we do not actually know for
>>   sure. But for now, we have to stick with Occam's razor;
>>   there is no real point in guessing about miracles happening later on.
>>   Science laws are called "laws" because they describe the past,
>>   not because they lay down rules for what has to happen next.
>>   Still, so far, betting that the old laws keep working has
>>   always paid off. Technically, the universe could just blink out
>>   of existence at any moment. That would not really bother anyone.
> 
> 1. That is an intellectualist/atheist definition of "miracle",
> intended to show that none exist. The actual meaning is "something
> worth looking at". Or perhaps "something you don't see every day".

That is certainly not the way the word is used by  the religious people 
I know.

I rather expect that the people down the road at the "Mountain of Fire 
and Miracles Ministry" would also beg to differ.

So it is at the least an atheist/fundamentalist definition.

William Hyde