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Path: news.eternal-september.org!eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@tha.de> Newsgroups: sci.math Subject: Re: Log i = 0 Date: Mon, 26 May 2025 22:05:18 +0200 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 27 Message-ID: <1012hht$26066$1@dont-email.me> References: <sYEiFg9bb-rpcOy6CMCFxOsQvKw@jntp> <100u1hr$164q1$1@dont-email.me> <h0z1WzuRt17jRInBMV41NIJRQYo@jntp> <100v4db$1clol$1@dont-email.me> <100vb6e$1e1uv$1@dont-email.me> <100ve7j$1ek0p$1@dont-email.me> <100vf19$1ela4$1@dont-email.me> <100vfr3$1ek0p$2@dont-email.me> <100vih5$1fh1n$1@dont-email.me> <1011u94$20v84$2@dont-email.me> <1011vkb$229o9$1@dont-email.me> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Mon, 26 May 2025 22:05:17 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="a2401644059756b2685ba24975c3bca4"; logging-data="2293958"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX18jyp2fPgQvrODKdGh0Mz6plfD8UTerTGk=" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:TAJWUkEjbqpk2gXYhYXmLXmroiI= Content-Language: en-US In-Reply-To: <1011vkb$229o9$1@dont-email.me> On 26.05.2025 16:59, FromTheRafters wrote: > on 5/26/2025, WM supposed : >> On 25.05.2025 19:03, efji wrote: >>> Yes, there is no certainty in science, EXCEPT in maths ! >>> Take any maths book or article, take any proposition entitled >>> "Theorem", you know that it is true forever, without any doubt and >>> without any chance that somebody in 1000 years in the future could >>> disprove it, whatever "science" will be at this time. >> >> That is wrong. Present mathematics simply assumes that all natural >> numbers can be used for counting. But that is wrong. > > No, you simply misunderstand what countability means. "If we think the numbers p/q in such an order [...] then every number p/q comes at an absolutely fixed position of a simple infinite sequence" [E. Zermelo: "Georg Cantor – Gesammelte Abhandlungen mathematischen und philosophischen Inhalts", Springer, Berlin (1932) p. 126] "The infinite sequence thus defined has the peculiar property to contain the positive rational numbers completely, and each of them only once at a determined place." [G. Cantor, letter to R. Lipschitz (19 Nov 1883)] Regards, WM