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Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Stephen Fuld <sfuld@alumni.cmu.edu.invalid> Newsgroups: comp.arch Subject: Re: fuzzy disks, Is Parallel Programming Hard, And, If So, What Can You Do About It? Date: Mon, 26 May 2025 13:36:30 -0700 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 32 Message-ID: <1012jce$23l9t$1@dont-email.me> References: <vvnds6$3gism$1@dont-email.me> <100vq44$1h5c4$1@dont-email.me> <1eb319f0e23c588dc4c6294fed84b2d1@www.novabbs.org> <1010qco$1r9ao$2@dont-email.me> <1012965$1u7m$1@gal.iecc.com> <1012b5p$23l9s$1@dont-email.me> <jwvtt575hsb.fsf-monnier+comp.arch@gnu.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Date: Mon, 26 May 2025 22:36:31 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="012f7f512d619c710b5b54f1556fe654"; logging-data="2217277"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX19e021x6tnWWOeNBsX4x8x1wQSnj/jkpqM=" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:lBiUXr9hx/TdzBm9Br0PpuPvspM= Content-Language: en-US In-Reply-To: <jwvtt575hsb.fsf-monnier+comp.arch@gnu.org> Bytes: 2544 On 5/26/2025 11:58 AM, Stefan Monnier wrote: > Stephen Fuld [2025-05-26 11:16:25] wrote: >> https://www.seagate.com/innovation/multi-actuator-hard-drives/ > > Hmmm, hard to believe it makes commercial sense: if you need higher > performance, when would this be price-competitive with an SSD? It should be not much more costly than a single disk of the same capacity. It has the same number of heads, platters, and of course the same enclosure, etc. A little more work to separate the two arm magnetic actuators. The same electronics, except for, and this is probably the most expensive part, an additional read channel. So still a lot cheaper than an SSD. > Also, that page is very light on details, but the image they include > suggests the two actuators are used on separate platters, so it's akin > to cramming a 2-disk-RAID0 into a single HDD enclosure. Yeah, sort of. But a single drive motor, a single host interface, microprocessor, etc. So quite a bit less costly than two separate disks. > Maybe part of the gain of having two actuators is that each actuator is > a bit lighter? I suspect that is insignificant. -- - Stephen Fuld (e-mail address disguised to prevent spam)