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From: "Adam H. Kerman" <ahk@chinet.com>
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BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:
>May 26, 2025 at 12:42:07 PM PDT, Adam H. Kerman <ahk@chinet.com>:
>>BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:

>>>. . . 

>>>Several years ago, the San Francisco schools were caught bringing
>>>imams into the classroom and having the kids recite the Muslim prayer
>>>of conversion to Islam. Yet the two words "under god" in the pledge
>>>of allegiance are supposedly unconstitutional because "we all know
>>>they refer to the Christian god". . . . 

>>>Of course, if they'd brought in a Catholic priest to say the Liturgy,
>>>forcing the children to participate no less, the ACLU would have shit
>>>itself and wouldn't have been able to file lawsuits fast enough.

>>If Islam is favored at the expense of other religions, then that's an
>>unconstitutional Establishment of religion. If it were being done as a
>>comparison of religions without favoritism, then it wouldn't have been
>>unconstitutional.

>Comparing religions in the classroom does not require bringing in a holy man
>(from only one of the religions being discussed, mind you) and having the
>students recite prayers. There's absolutely no legal defense for any of that.

I agree that the public school cannot have students participate in
a religious ceremony of any kind.

>>Do you know for a fact that ACLU of California was asked, but refused,
>>to seek an injunction on Islam being favored in public schools? I've
>>never heard of this type of thing.

>The public outcry was enough to have SF schools back off.

I'm glad to hear that they hadn't refused.

>It's also interesting to note that under Islam, merely saying the words to the
>Shahada, the Muslim prayer of conversion, automatically makes one a Muslim, so
>as far as the Muslim community is concerned, all the school kids who recited
>that prayer at the behest of their teachers are now Muslims and if they
>subsequently rejected Islam by continuing to practice Christianity or Judaism
>or any other religion (or no religion at all), they are considered apostates
>and can be legally killed under Sharia law. Given the number of radical
>Islamists out there that our government has happily imported into America over
>the last half-decade, that's no inconsequential concern for the parents of
>those children.

I agree with this, too.