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Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Stephen Fuld <sfuld@alumni.cmu.edu.invalid> Newsgroups: comp.arch Subject: Re: fuzzy disks, Is Parallel Programming Hard, And, If So, What Can You Do About It? Date: Mon, 26 May 2025 21:52:45 -0700 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 27 Message-ID: <1013get$23l9t$5@dont-email.me> References: <vvnds6$3gism$1@dont-email.me> <1012965$1u7m$1@gal.iecc.com> <1012b5p$23l9s$1@dont-email.me> <jwvtt575hsb.fsf-monnier+comp.arch@gnu.org> <1012esr$4ne$1@gal.iecc.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Date: Tue, 27 May 2025 06:52:45 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="6c6b6328d23fdae4142045d11e21cdd3"; logging-data="2217277"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX18liphIoEnOvp2ES4y4h4EclK+CYAoOZXM=" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:SisfVpNjX5fiJ5/LBthamE+DaJM= Content-Language: en-US In-Reply-To: <1012esr$4ne$1@gal.iecc.com> Bytes: 2313 On 5/26/2025 12:19 PM, John Levine wrote: > According to Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>: >> Stephen Fuld [2025-05-26 11:16:25] wrote: >>> https://www.seagate.com/innovation/multi-actuator-hard-drives/ >> >> Hmmm, hard to believe it makes commercial sense: if you need higher >> performance, when would this be price-competitive with an SSD? >> >> Also, that page is very light on details, but the image they include >> suggests the two actuators are used on separate platters, so it's akin >> to cramming a 2-disk-RAID0 into a single HDD enclosure. > > The data sheet says it is in effect two 7TB disks in a single enclosure. > > It seems to have come and gone. Nobody has them new, refurbished are > $150 - $200 on eBay. An SSD of similar size is in the $2000 range so > it would have made sense for a data warehouse. I thought it would. I believe you about its current state, but I wonder why it wasn't more successful. It seems like a big improvement in throughput for very little extra cost. -- - Stephen Fuld (e-mail address disguised to prevent spam)