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Path: news.eternal-september.org!eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> Newsgroups: sci.electronics.design Subject: Re: LTSpice model for a SiC MOSFET Date: Wed, 28 May 2025 00:28:12 +1000 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 57 Message-ID: <1014i5v$2l96s$1@dont-email.me> References: <100c4og$t4lo$1@dont-email.me> <1rcl8ui.1xbo3q4bshnscN%liz@poppyrecords.invalid.invalid> <100hfha$25c6d$2@dont-email.me> <100if8c$2bjq8$1@dont-email.me> <100juso$2npp2$1@dont-email.me> <100lu4p$34323$1@dont-email.me> <bfs93k1qvdr5fvt0k3e0n41uqqfm8imcea@4ax.com> <1013fj8$2elfk$2@dont-email.me> <1rczwrr.jvkddh8kzgo2N%liz@poppyrecords.invalid.invalid> <r8gb3k59iumrplb5dn26amp5tqof34s887@4ax.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Date: Tue, 27 May 2025 16:28:16 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="b8ea00e0103481231a1db025fca2b9c5"; logging-data="2794716"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX186aL6TpQJHiwKXxg574yssDoXIZVRCvDY=" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:Tq3gFc2VoBp6phxvW6MxE4jdkjQ= X-Antivirus-Status: Clean X-Priority: 5 (Lowest) In-Reply-To: <r8gb3k59iumrplb5dn26amp5tqof34s887@4ax.com> Content-Language: en-US X-Antivirus: Norton (VPS 250527-6, 27/5/2025), Outbound message On 27/05/2025 11:46 pm, john larkin wrote: > On Tue, 27 May 2025 14:16:11 +0100, liz@poppyrecords.invalid.invalid > (Liz Tuddenham) wrote: > >> Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> wrote: >> >>> On 27/05/2025 9:09 am, john larkin wrote: >> >> [...] >>>> The specs, as far as I can tell, suggest 1KV at 1 ma in and 3.3v at 3 >>>> ma out. The required efficiency is then 1%. >>> >>> Actually 1kV at 10uA in. >> >> Good grief! A 10-megohm quarter watt resistor with a zener diode is >> the obvious answer. > > A 3.3v real zener will probably leak more than 10uA. Low voltage > zeners are awful. > > And he wants 3 mA out... I think. The guy I was talking to had 10uA at 1kV, and wanted a 3.3V output. 1mW at 3.3V is 3mA. The 3ma is the upper limit the circuit could supply. >> >> [...] >>> Misunderstanding the constraints can lead people to propose >>> inappropriate solutions. >> >> How can anyone misunderstand something they have never been told? You managed it. > Bill was the confused person. John Larkin does like to think that. > The problem gets much more interesting with 10 uA in and 99% > efficiency requirement. There never was an efficiency requirement. 50% would have been nice. > A Baxandall isn't going pull microamps at 1 KV. Keeping a resonant tank resonating at a couple of kV is going to use up power in the winding resistance. I think I can get 245H out of RM14 core. If we can keep the parallel capacitance down to 25pF that would resonate at 2kHz and the reactive impedance would be 3 Mohm, giving a peak current 0f 1mA. The resistance of the winding is going to be about 480R, so I^2.R is 500uW, or 0.5uA at 1kV. A properly designed Baxandall might well pull less than 1uA if lightly loaded. -- Bill Sloman, Sydney