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On 5/27/2025 11:36 AM, a425couple wrote:
> On 5/27/25 01:57, Yazoo wrote:
>> On Mon, 26 May 2025 17:02:52 -0700, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On 2025-05-26 16:46, Geoff wrote:
>>>> Many blamed the 'compulsory 2-stop' rule for disadvantaging cars/teams
>>>> stuck behind others doing their own strategies.
>>>>
>>>> The answer - overtake them, just as you would have to in order to 
>>>> gain a
>>>> place without the new rule !
>>>>
>>>> Yes, not easy at Monaco. but never has been whatever the regs.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Meh.
>>>
>>> I'm glad they tried something new to spice up a race that has been a
>>> procession for decades.
>>>
>>> Did it work? No, not really.
>>
>> Yeah, mixed feelings.
>> Monaco has historical status as "the" race.
>> But actual racing has been almost impossible for years now. Cars are
>> too big for this narrow streets.
>> And nothing can solve this problem.
>>
>> Did you see the old car alongside the new one? The old one looks like
>> a toy compared to the new one. Current cars are huge, too big for
>> these streets of Monaco.
> 
> I agree with the great problems created by modern cars huge size.
> 
> In this article Alexander Wurz discusses 3 feasible solutions.
> (He certainly knows the subject!)
> 
> citation - go to it, to view pictures.
> https://www.the-race.com/formula-1/three-feasible-ways-to-create-monaco- 
> overtaking-wurzs-proposals-explained/? 
> fbclid=IwY2xjawKh1HtleHRuA2FlbQIxMQBicmlkETFtdWVlNTlnbXdNV0kya1dmAR5T8YTBZInGQrS57CEink8iw8TXALlauzdT_Z7wvKXNj5L1RoQAcH96QjQ65A_aem_GOqjA8u77csxx8mN9o-raQ
> 
> Three feasible ways to create Monaco overtaking - Wurz's proposals 
> explained
> May 26, 2025
> by Jon Noble
> 4 min read
>   7 comments
> 
> Grand Prix Drivers' Association chairman Alex Wurz has outlined three 
> feasible ways that Monaco's Formula 1 circuit can be improved to help 
> overtaking.
> 
> 
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> Following another weekend of frustration over the lack of passing 
> opportunities on the Monte Carlo street circuit - accentuated by the 
> controversial team manipulation the situation triggered - there has been 
> renewed talk about the need for potential tweaks to the layout.
> 
> And while the physical limitation of the harbourside venue and buildings 
> makes it difficult to see where a major overhaul could happen, former F1 
> racer Wurz has outlined three tweaks that could be easily achieved to 
> deliver an improvement.
> 
> 
> Wurz's ideas carry some weight because he has huge experience of what is 
> needed for successful race circuits through his track design company 
> Wurz Design.
> 
> He is working on the new Qiddiya circuit in Saudi Arabia as well as 
> designing a potential F1 venue in Rwanda.
> 
> In a video he posted on Instagram of a presentation of potential Monaco 
> track changes, Wurz outlined three areas that could be modified that 
> would help maintain the character of the circuit but open up better 
> racing and more importantly increase chances for overtaking.
> 
> 1 Moving the Nouvelle chicane
> 
> The first area is a revamp of the Nouvelle Chicane after the tunnel.
> 
> Wurz's proposal, which has been discussed with fellow F1 drivers, is to 
> extend the tunnel exit and move the chicane further down towards Tabac.
> 
> "I am very convinced, from my own experience watching the races and 
> talking to my fellow drivers, that moving the chicane later, which 
> physically with the constraints any city has, should be possible," he said.
> 
> "It means the defending for this corner - which is quite easy to do, 
> with the kink and the bumps - will become more difficult."
> 
> One of the considerations that would need to be taken into account when 
> working out where the chicane was placed would be ensuring that the 
> following Tabac corner was far enough away from the chicane exit that 
> drivers still had to lift off for it.
> 
> 2 Reprofiling Rascasse
> 
> A simpler change Wurz suggests is to reprofile the Rascasse corner so 
> the apex is moved two or three metres further out.
> 
> This can be complemented with a widening of the track, although this has 
> to bear in mind a car park ramp that features on the outside of the turn 
> and cannot be moved.
> 
> 
> Gary Anderson's idea for a Monaco layout change
>   Read more
> Talking about how this improvement could change things, Wurz said: "When 
> this apex comes further out, the entry line will definitely change.
> 
> "You will open the corner much more for a divebomb, and that means any 
> driver ahead will either have to defend or accept he leaves the door open.
> 
> "If you're defending, you will come out much slower, so you're creating 
> a train behind you, and the pressure on all of the drivers will simply 
> increase.
> 
> "I think this is a small trick, quite easy to realise, but should at 
> least engage in more fighting, more intense pressure, and perhaps 
> overtaking."
> 
> 3 The Fairmont hairpin
> 
> The final opportunity that Wurz thinks exists to improve Monaco is to 
> widen the entry to the Fairmont (formerly Loews) Hairpin.
> 
> Wurz believes that there is an opportunity to expand the track by just 
> more than two metres here at both the entry and exit.
> 
> "It means drivers coming down have an easier opportunity to do a 
> divebomb," he said. "It means the lead driver will have to defend more, 
> so he will be slower.
> 
> "But the hairpin is very tight, so we need to also enlarge the track on 
> the exit, lose the kerb, and have asphalt all the way to this physical 
> wall, so we have the turning radius."
> 
> 
> Wurz believes the value of this change is as much in creating overtaking 
> chances for the following corners as at the hairpin itself, because 
> defensive lines there will compromise lines and momentum towards the 
> tunnel.
> 
> "The real ideal racing line will not change from what it is…it will just 
> lead into a little bit more defending…and therefore this corner will 
> actually initiate the overtaking into the new chicane," said Wurz.
> 
> 
> 
> "And all that together should be an improvement for the overtaking and 
> raceability in the streets of Monaco."
> 
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> 
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> 

Ban the barges.