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Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> Newsgroups: comp.lang.c Subject: Re: encapsulating directory operations Date: Thu, 29 May 2025 13:38:37 +0100 Organization: Fix this later Lines: 47 Message-ID: <1019kgf$3s5co$1@dont-email.me> References: <100h650$23r5l$1@dont-email.me> <20250520065158.709@kylheku.com> <100i2la$292le$1@dont-email.me> <87a5770xjw.fsf@nosuchdomain.example.com> <100j09o$2f04b$1@dont-email.me> <87tt5ezx9y.fsf@nosuchdomain.example.com> <100j4t3$2foah$1@dont-email.me> <87ldqqzfj0.fsf@nosuchdomain.example.com> <100kak8$2q0s6$1@dont-email.me> <87a575zvmb.fsf@nosuchdomain.example.com> <100o3sc$3ll6t$1@dont-email.me> <87bjrkxonr.fsf@nosuchdomain.example.com> <b7fb8fc41d43807641e673e1ca1d3baf69f5766f@i2pn2.org> <87iklrtcys.fsf@nosuchdomain.example.com> <20250523132019.763@kylheku.com> <100qm76$7shk$2@dont-email.me> <20250523140729.787@kylheku.com> <100qru0$9mjb$2@dont-email.me> <101929h$3olom$4@dont-email.me> <10196gn$3pd33$1@dont-email.me> <10199t2$3q3mn$1@dont-email.me> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Date: Thu, 29 May 2025 14:38:39 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="b460fc7b74503cbb8966d520c678c9ad"; logging-data="4068760"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX18XAP13UE9RJ/GnfzRfTslkYuKGpI9AGh9sLQIDF7mC9A==" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:GSXaerqz+2C+miGkKWfaxtyMEpQ= Content-Language: en-GB In-Reply-To: <10199t2$3q3mn$1@dont-email.me> Bytes: 3372 On 29/05/2025 10:37, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote: > On Thu, 29 May 2025 09:39:51 +0100, Richard Heathfield wrote: > >> On 29/05/2025 08:27, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote: >>> >>> On Fri, 23 May 2025 23:13:20 +0100, Richard Heathfield wrote: >>> >>>> And who cares about future instability if C90 remains just as stable >>>> as ever it was? >>> >>> Even with the problems with const? >>> >>> char *strstr(const char *haystack, const char *needle); >>> >>> Dennis Ritchie pointed out the trouble with that. >> >> Is C90 perfect? No, of course not. > > Is there some value in that particular state of imperfection? Yes. > Like the > Amish, whose concept of the ideal level of technology is the one that was > in effect at the time they were founded? And who have remained stuck at > that point in time ever since? No, not even remotely like that. If I want C++, I know where to find it. If I want Python, I know where to find it. If I want Rust, I know where to find it. You can have new tools without breaking the old ones. We didn't have to change BCPL to get B, or B to get C, or C to get D or C++. This really is a very simple point, but perhaps a simple analogy will help to clarify it. You don't throw out your 3/4" just because you've bought a 19mm. There is room for both in the toolbox, and why write 3/4" on your new spanner? It /isn't/ a 3/4" spanner even though it's very like it, so why pretend otherwise? -- Richard Heathfield Email: rjh at cpax dot org dot uk "Usenet is a strange place" - dmr 29 July 1999 Sig line 4 vacant - apply within