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Path: news.eternal-september.org!eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: "Adam H. Kerman" <ahk@chinet.com> Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv Subject: Re: Self defense injustice in the UK Date: Thu, 29 May 2025 16:46:50 -0000 (UTC) Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 38 Message-ID: <101a31q$3v78a$2@dont-email.me> References: <1018s5j$3nifm$1@dont-email.me> <1019me8$3rn78$2@dont-email.me> Injection-Date: Thu, 29 May 2025 18:46:50 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="158a66e57e62612d85a18d9f8afd935f"; logging-data="4168970"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX19QL1ATKp4SDaMXJbMsvUfBx5apZ8dAc+A=" Cancel-Lock: sha1:sBcSQSvNf+7kCGFRbngd7iJHAcc= X-Newsreader: trn 4.0-test77 (Sep 1, 2010) Rhino <no_offline_contact@example.com> wrote: >2025-05-29 1:43 AM, Adam H. Kerman wrote: >>Woman accepts ride home from man she recently began dating. However, >>he's drunk, drives in the opposite direction, stops the vehicle, and >>begins sexually assaulting her. She pulls out a knife she carries for >>self defense and kills him with one thrust. >>She turns herself into police. >>This is the UK. Do I even have to tell you what happens to her next? >>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_TYoStIDRJE >That was truly obscene. Both sets of lawyers agreed that it was >unquestionably self-defence yet she got 17 years in the slammer. I don't even think this is recent law. She committed a crime by using the knife she had brought with her anticipating she might need to defend herself. She'd been sexually assaulted previously. With UK's prohibition of being able to act in self defense using a weapon, suppose you use your own body to defeat your attacker. In the ultimate illogic, did you violate the law as you used what you brought with you as a weapon? >The >contrast with the sentences for the people convicted in the rape gang >scandal were extremely disproportionate by comparison. >Maybe Reform can preside over a major rewrite of the laws in the UK so >that they make sense again. (Reform is substantially ahead of both the >Conservatives and Reform in polling on a national basis but the next >election is still a few years away so anything could happen between now >and then.) I have no idea as UK voters do not seem to be inclined to punish their politicians for illiberal laws.