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Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> Newsgroups: comp.arch Subject: Re: OoO execution Date: Thu, 29 May 2025 22:20:07 -0000 (UTC) Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 26 Message-ID: <101amin$374e$1@dont-email.me> References: <100apst$hsll$1@dont-email.me> <afa210f16ab3d6795c61787ad914e7ba@www.novabbs.org> <100bs7t$rna2$1@dont-email.me> <20250518182303.00003542@yahoo.com> <76948d869e78f8cb511809bd159008fd@www.novabbs.com> <100e352$1d61i$3@dont-email.me> <e5fc3f66c40e74c1cf09ba5ed5a53c14@www.novabbs.com> <2025May19.082242@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at> <101aavj$kij$2@dont-email.me> <6e113c5312a5933bd51ff549a99b6869@www.novabbs.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Fri, 30 May 2025 00:20:10 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="ae5667b32e6ec6b7f81ed22a40ff8cdf"; logging-data="105614"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1+InX0EaOTZQZBN0KvEGSfB" User-Agent: Pan/0.162 (Pokrosvk) Cancel-Lock: sha1:jQT7DBXlHKzRjib0BHGe534ga4M= Bytes: 2397 On Thu, 29 May 2025 20:06:21 +0000, MitchAlsup1 wrote: > quadibloc <quadibloc@gmail.com> writes: > >> Eventually, IBM caught up with the Control Data 6600 by perfecting >> pipelining in the IBM 360/91, > > At the cost of about 3× the number of gates and power along with a 60% > increase in the clock rate (60ns versus 100ns). This advantage vanished > about the time of first /91 deliveries with CDC 7600 going to a ~27ns > clock along with pipelining and concurrent calculation. Like I said, part of IBM’s tradition of overpromising and underdelivering. But it served its purpose, that of dissuading customers from buying the CDC product. > Mc68010 had a "loop buffer" of a couple handful of instructions. > Mc68020 had 256B instruction cache no TLB > Mc68030 had 256B I$ 256B D$ and ~32E TLB tablewalks in HW As I recall, the ’030 wasn’t that much of an advance over the ’020. But the 68040 was a major step forward. And the 68060 wasn’t too bad, either. But by that time the major customer (Apple) had lost interest. I think it was used in some Amiga machines.