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From: Mikko <mikko.levanto@iki.fi>
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Subject: Re: Disagreeing with tautologies is always incorrect
Date: Fri, 30 May 2025 10:39:24 +0300
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On 2025-05-29 15:37:42 +0000, olcott said:

> HHH is a simulating termination analyzer that uses
> an x86 emulator to emulate its input. HHH is capable
> of emulating itself emulating DDD.
> 
> HHH is executed within the x86utm operating system
> that enables any C function to execute another C
> function in debug step mode.
> 
> *Here is the fully operational code*
> https://github.com/plolcott/x86utm/blob/master/Halt7.c
> 
> void DDD()
> {
>    HHH(DDD);
>    return;
> }
> 
> _DDD()
> [00002192] 55             push ebp
> [00002193] 8bec           mov ebp,esp
> [00002195] 6892210000     push 00002192
> [0000219a] e833f4ffff     call 000015d2  // call HHH
> [0000219f] 83c404         add esp,+04
> [000021a2] 5d             pop ebp
> [000021a3] c3             ret
> Size in bytes:(0018) [000021a3]
> 
> <MIT Professor Sipser agreed to ONLY these verbatim words 10/13/2022>
>      If simulating halt decider H correctly simulates its
>      input D until H correctly determines that its simulated D
>      would never stop running unless aborted then
> 
> It is a tautology that any input D to termination
> analyzer H that *would never stop running unless aborted*
> DOES SPECIFY NON-TERMINATING BEHAVIOR.
> 
> Simulating Termination Analyzer H is Not Fooled by Pathological Input D
> https://www.researchgate.net/publication/369971402_Simulating_Termination_Analyzer_H_is_Not_Fooled_by_Pathological_Input_D 
> 

DIsagreeing with a false claim justified by a fallacy from a tautology
is always correct.

-- 
Mikko