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Path: news.eternal-september.org!eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Zen Cycle <funkmaster@hotmail.com> Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.tech Subject: Re: New York's Crackdown on Ebikes Date: Fri, 30 May 2025 10:41:51 -0400 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 79 Message-ID: <101cg3f$fh57$4@dont-email.me> References: <1010gi0$1lt0p$1@dont-email.me> <q3c83khsrvlqm9nlp41a4ant6t4vup51o2@4ax.com> <1011nc5$20dd1$1@dont-email.me> <1011vla$220ba$1@dont-email.me> <101c83n$fh58$1@dont-email.me> <q99j3kl3bpds7tjfaof5kgcuuftfrr0ui7@4ax.com> <101cb36$cvdr$4@dont-email.me> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Fri, 30 May 2025 16:41:52 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="b63309162f764742a2e6005d4271a0f8"; logging-data="509095"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1+BotYifdb7stGd61uWWMJZg3piEWiYRa0=" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:NGJ1PwLNH2+GNeFt5Mw9vZn8EWM= In-Reply-To: <101cb36$cvdr$4@dont-email.me> Content-Language: en-US On 5/30/2025 9:16 AM, Rolf Mantel wrote: > Am 30.05.2025 um 14:36 schrieb Catrike Ryder: >> On Fri, 30 May 2025 08:25:26 -0400, Zen Cycle <funkmaster@hotmail.com> >> wrote: >> >>> On 5/26/2025 10:59 AM, Frank Krygowski wrote: >>>> On 5/26/2025 8:38 AM, AMuzi wrote: >>>>> On 5/26/2025 4:16 AM, Catrike Ryder wrote: >>>>>> On Sun, 25 May 2025 21:36:00 -0400, Frank Krygowski >>>>>> <frkrygow@sbcglobal.net> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> New York Times article on police cracking down on ebike traffic >>>>>>> violations. Let's see if this will get people past the paywall: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> https://www.nytimes.com/2025/05/24/nyregion/ebikes-scooters- >>>>>>> cyclists- nyc.html? >>>>>>> unlocked_article_code=1.KE8.voH2.AOcHv0jrnp79&smid=url-share >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> “This is a direct attack on immigrant workers,” Ms. Guallpa said. >>>>>> “The >>>>>> intent is to criminalize workers and to create a situation where our >>>>>> communities could be targets for deportation.” >>>>>> >>>>>> Typical NYT woke nonsense... >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> C'est bon >>>>>> Soloman >>>>> >>>>> +1 with the typical misdirection and conflation. >>>>> >>>>> Legal Resident Aliens (taxpaying, working people who cannot vote) are >>>>> ignored, along with US citizens. Criminal illegal aliens who, by >>>>> Statute, cannot work and who are subject to summary deportation by the >>>>> same Statutes, are where her sympathies lie. >>>> >>>> Damn. The right wing of this newsgroup is always on hair trigger! >>>> >>>> The article contains over 2000 words. Of those, only about three >>>> paragraphs mention immigrant delivery workers. The rest deals with the >>>> disparity between ebike and car enforcement policies, noting that cars >>>> kill far, far more pedestrians. It doesn't even mention that NYC >>>> life is >>>> totally dominated by the negative effects of car traffic. Yet people >>>> are >>>> enraged about the comparatively minuscule effects of ebikes, and ebike >>>> riders are in some ways being treated more harshly than car drivers. >>>> >>>> Look, I think ebike riders should ride legally. I think U.S. ebikes are >>>> too fast, and/or should be legally treated more like motorcycles - >>>> meaning integrated into traffic and kept off bike paths. >>>> >>>> But you guys ignore all that, blinded by the brief mention of >>>> immigrants. You never fail to respond to right wing dog whistles, even >>>> if you have to blow the whistle yourself. >>> >>> Braindead magatards like the floriduh dumbass will consistently look for >>> a political scapegoat for any issue they have based their ignorant >>> opinions on, as is shown by his parroting of magatard groupthink >>> nonsense. >>> >>> Andrew isn't as bad as most but even he more recently is allowing >>> himself to get sucked into the magatard groupthink propaganda - there is >>> no evidence in that article to support "Criminal illegal aliens....are >>> where her sympathies lie." >> >> Since deportation only applies to people in the USA illegally, her >> statement absolutely indicates her sympathies are with the illegals. > > Deportation applies to people "presumed illegal" by the administration, > not only to people legally determined illegal. > Sadly the current admisitration has declared people illegal and > attempted to deport without due process. +1, There have already been several well documented detentions and attempted deportations of _legal_ immigrants.