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From: dbush <dbush.mobile@gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: Bad faith and dishonesty
Date: Sat, 31 May 2025 11:38:56 -0400
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On 5/31/2025 11:35 AM, olcott wrote:
> On 5/31/2025 7:38 AM, dbush wrote:
>> On 5/30/2025 11:34 PM, olcott wrote:
>>> On 5/30/2025 8:48 PM, dbush wrote:
>>>> On 5/30/2025 9:36 PM, olcott wrote:
>>>>> On 5/30/2025 8:28 PM, dbush wrote:
>>>>>> On 5/30/2025 6:34 PM, olcott wrote:
>>>>>>> On 5/30/2025 2:11 PM, dbush wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 5/30/2025 3:05 PM, olcott wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On 5/30/2025 2:01 PM, dbush wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On 5/30/2025 3:00 PM, olcott wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> On 5/30/2025 1:48 PM, dbush wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> On 5/30/2025 2:40 PM, olcott wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> It is a verified fact that the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> *input input input input input input*
>>>>>>>>>>>>> *input input input input input input*
>>>>>>>>>>>>> *input input input input input input*
>>>>>>>>>>>>> *input input input input input input*
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> to HHH(DDD)
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> i.e. a description of algorithm DDD consisting of the fixed 
>>>>>>>>>>>> code of the function DDD, the fixed code of the function 
>>>>>>>>>>>> HHH, and the fixed code of everything that HHH calls down to 
>>>>>>>>>>>> the OS level.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Never stops running unless HHH aborts its emulation
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> In other words, if you change the input so that HHH doesn't 
>>>>>>>>>> abort.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Changing the input is not allowed.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I never changed the input you freaking moron.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> You did exactly what when you hypothesized a different 
>>>>>>>> implementation of function HHH.  And since function HHH is part 
>>>>>>>> of the input, you changed the input.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Changing the input, hypothetically or otherwise, is not allowed.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It can be seen by humans that DDD correctly simulated
>>>>>>> by HHH would never stop running unless aborted.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> In other words, if the code of HHH was changed to not abort, DDD 
>>>>>> would not halt when executed directly.  That changes the input.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Changing the input is not allowed.
>>>>>
>>>>> When a human imagines all of the possibilities
>>>>> of every HHH that can possibly exist
>>>>
>>>> You change the input, 
>>>
>>> I am taking about a set of concepts
>>> that you hold in your own mind, jackass.
>>
>> And those set of concepts change the input as described below. 
> 
> Only if your brain is an x86 processor with unlimited RAM.
> So you are finally admitting that you are a bot?

In other words, you agree that you're changing the input as noted below, 
which you dishonestly trimmed.

Changing the input is not allowed.

>
>> And those set of concepts change the input as described below.  That you 
>> trimmed it shows that you know this is true and tried to hide it to 
>> support your lies.
>> 
>> Changing the input is not allowed.
>> 
>>>
>>>> as the input is the fixed code of the function DDD, the fixed code of 
>>>> the function HHH, and the fixed code of everything that function HHH 
>>>> calls down to the OS level.
>>>>
>>>> Changing the input is not allowed.
>> 
>> The fact that you responded again to this message instead of my latest 
>> below further shows your dishonesty:
>> 
>> On 5/30/2025 10:29 PM, dbush wrote:
>>  > On 5/30/2025 10:25 PM, olcott wrote:
>>  >> On 5/30/2025 8:48 PM, dbush wrote:
>>  >>> You change the input,
>>  >>
>>  >> Damned liar
>>  >>
>>  >
>>  > That you made no attempt to refute the below and dishonestly trimmed it
>>  > constitutes your admission that it is correct and that you attempted to
>>  > hide it to cover *your* lie.
>>  >
>>  > You changed the input.  Changing the input is not allowed.
>>  >
>>  >>> as the input is the fixed code of the function DDD, the fixed code of
>>  >>> the function HHH, and the fixed code of everything that function HHH
>>  >>> calls down to the OS level.
>>  >>>
>>  >>> Changing the input is not allowed.