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From: AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org>
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Subject: Re: New York's Crackdown on Ebikes
Date: Sat, 31 May 2025 11:15:17 -0500
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On 5/31/2025 7:57 AM, zen cycle wrote:
> On 5/30/2025 5:36 PM, AMuzi wrote:
>> On 5/30/2025 1:43 PM, Zen Cycle wrote:
>>> On 5/30/2025 12:28 PM, AMuzi wrote:
>>>> On 5/30/2025 11:07 AM, Catrike Ryder wrote:
>>>>> On Fri, 30 May 2025 10:41:51 -0400, Zen Cycle 
>>>>> <funkmaster@hotmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 5/30/2025 9:16 AM, Rolf Mantel wrote:
>>>>>>> Am 30.05.2025 um 14:36 schrieb Catrike Ryder:
>>>>>>>> On Fri, 30 May 2025 08:25:26 -0400, Zen Cycle 
>>>>>>>> <funkmaster@hotmail.com>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 5/26/2025 10:59 AM, Frank Krygowski wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On 5/26/2025 8:38 AM, AMuzi wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> On 5/26/2025 4:16 AM, Catrike Ryder wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, 25 May 2025 21:36:00 -0400, Frank Krygowski
>>>>>>>>>>>> <frkrygow@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> New York Times article on police cracking down 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> on ebike traffic
>>>>>>>>>>>>> violations. Let's see if this will get people 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> past the paywall:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.nytimes.com/2025/05/24/nyregion/ 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> ebikes-scooters-
>>>>>>>>>>>>> cyclists- nyc.html?
>>>>>>>>>>>>> unlocked_article_code=1.KE8.voH2.AOcHv0jrnp79&smid=url-share
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> “This is a direct attack on immigrant workers,” 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Ms. Guallpa said.
>>>>>>>>>>>> “The
>>>>>>>>>>>> intent is to criminalize workers and to create a 
>>>>>>>>>>>> situation where our
>>>>>>>>>>>> communities could be targets for deportation.”
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Typical NYT woke nonsense...
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> -- 
>>>>>>>>>>>> C'est bon
>>>>>>>>>>>> Soloman
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> +1 with the typical misdirection and conflation.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Legal Resident Aliens (taxpaying, working people 
>>>>>>>>>>> who cannot vote) are
>>>>>>>>>>> ignored, along with US citizens. Criminal illegal 
>>>>>>>>>>> aliens who, by
>>>>>>>>>>> Statute, cannot work and who are subject to 
>>>>>>>>>>> summary deportation by the
>>>>>>>>>>> same Statutes, are where her sympathies lie.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Damn. The right wing of this newsgroup is always 
>>>>>>>>>> on hair trigger!
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> The article contains over 2000 words. Of those, 
>>>>>>>>>> only about three
>>>>>>>>>> paragraphs mention immigrant delivery workers. The 
>>>>>>>>>> rest deals with the
>>>>>>>>>> disparity between ebike and car enforcement 
>>>>>>>>>> policies, noting that cars
>>>>>>>>>> kill far, far more pedestrians. It doesn't even 
>>>>>>>>>> mention that NYC
>>>>>>>>>> life is
>>>>>>>>>> totally dominated by the negative effects of car 
>>>>>>>>>> traffic. Yet people
>>>>>>>>>> are
>>>>>>>>>> enraged about the comparatively minuscule effects 
>>>>>>>>>> of ebikes, and ebike
>>>>>>>>>> riders are in some ways being treated more harshly 
>>>>>>>>>> than car drivers.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Look, I think ebike riders should ride legally. I 
>>>>>>>>>> think U.S. ebikes are
>>>>>>>>>> too fast, and/or should be legally treated more 
>>>>>>>>>> like motorcycles -
>>>>>>>>>> meaning integrated into traffic and kept off bike 
>>>>>>>>>> paths.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> But you guys ignore all that, blinded by the brief 
>>>>>>>>>> mention of
>>>>>>>>>> immigrants. You never fail to respond to right 
>>>>>>>>>> wing dog whistles, even
>>>>>>>>>> if  you have to blow the whistle yourself.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Braindead magatards like the floriduh dumbass will 
>>>>>>>>> consistently look for
>>>>>>>>> a political scapegoat for any issue they have based 
>>>>>>>>> their ignorant
>>>>>>>>> opinions on, as is shown by his parroting of 
>>>>>>>>> magatard groupthink
>>>>>>>>> nonsense.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Andrew isn't as bad as most but even he more 
>>>>>>>>> recently is allowing
>>>>>>>>> himself to get sucked into the magatard groupthink 
>>>>>>>>> propaganda - there is
>>>>>>>>> no evidence in that article to support "Criminal 
>>>>>>>>> illegal aliens....are
>>>>>>>>> where her sympathies lie."
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Since deportation only applies to people in the USA 
>>>>>>>> illegally, her
>>>>>>>> statement absolutely indicates her sympathies are 
>>>>>>>> with the illegals.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Deportation applies to people "presumed illegal" by 
>>>>>>> the administration,
>>>>>>> not only to people legally determined illegal.
>>>>>>> Sadly the current admisitration has declared people 
>>>>>>> illegal and
>>>>>>> attempted to deport without due process.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> +1, There have already been several well documented 
>>>>>> detentions and
>>>>>> attempted deportations of _legal_ immigrants.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Mistakes were made. All were quickly corrected.
>>>>>
>>>>> -- 
>>>>> C'est bon
>>>>> Soloman
>>>>
>>>> Compare with some 20 million errors in the other 
>>>> direction in the past four years.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Oh, great, now you're on board with 'The Great 
>>> Replacement' theory.
>>>
>>> Interesting that an admitted atheist would be supportive 
>>> of blatantly white christian nationalist fascism. Gee 
>>> Andrew, who's going to be there when they come for you?
>>>
>>
>> I have no idea what you're raving about.
> 
> yes you do, you're just unwilling to admit it.
> 
>>
>> Go find a blatant white Christian nationalist fascist 
>> who's expounding some 'replacement theory' and give her a 
>> piece of your mind.
> 
> Just for everyone else's edification who might be ignorant:
> 
> https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/the-twisted-logic- 
> behind-the-rights-great-replacement-arguments/
> 
> Don't try to feign ignorance Andrew, you're far too well- 
> read and aware for me to buy that bullshit.
> 
>>
>> Even SCOTUS agrees that open borders as fiat policy is 
>> unlawful:
>>
>> https://apnews.com/article/trump-supreme-court- 
>> immigration- deportation-8bc46820c6444fbb3540c09764e32905
> 
> WTF? Are you taking kunich lessons now? You changed the 
> subject then posted a link which doesn't support your claim.
> 
> 1) we weren't discussing open borders, we were discussing 
> due process for deportation of illegal immigrants.
> 
> 2) your website doesn't address open borders, it addresses 
> revoking _legal_ status for asylum seekers. The first 
> sentence states:
> 
> "The Supreme Court on Friday again cleared the way for the 
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