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Path: news.eternal-september.org!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!weretis.net!feeder8.news.weretis.net!news1.tnib.de!feed.news.tnib.de!news.tnib.de!.POSTED.torres.zugschlus.de!not-for-mail From: Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.misc Subject: Re: Distros specifically designed for children Date: Sat, 31 May 2025 23:44:40 +0200 Organization: private site, see http://www.zugschlus.de/ for details Message-ID: <101ft88$23cru$1@news1.tnib.de> References: <1019cgr$1khmj$1@news1.tnib.de> <m9rpv4F8ss8U7@mid.individual.net> <101ac9k$1mslg$1@news1.tnib.de> <m9sh2nFcingU5@mid.individual.net> <101bo8v$1ps1p$1@news1.tnib.de> <101br6u$d3l6$6@dont-email.me> <101c4gj$1qmk5$1@news1.tnib.de> <101db9a$mkpm$8@dont-email.me> <101e44d$1vf44$1@news1.tnib.de> <101e8qb$104ce$3@dont-email.me> <101e9ma$1vrmp$1@news1.tnib.de> <101ejup$126kd$4@dont-email.me> <101emgm$20q0v$1@news1.tnib.de> <683b0c3a$0$24792$426a34cc@news.free.fr> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Sat, 31 May 2025 21:44:40 -0000 (UTC) Injection-Info: news1.tnib.de; posting-host="torres.zugschlus.de:81.169.166.32"; logging-data="2208638"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@tnib.de" X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 6.00/32.1186 Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> wrote: >Le 31-05-2025, Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> a écrit : >>>On 31/05/2025 08:04, Marc Haber wrote: >>>> The title bar of a window is bigger than a taskbar icon. And, which >>>> one of the thirty konsole taskbar icons is the window I want gone for >>>> a second? >>>> >>>Why do you have thirty? >> >> Because it it is somtimes necessary. You don't need to understand that >> unless you understand that there are valid usecases that look >> different from your own. > >If his other questions/answers where useless patronizing criticisms, >I found that one legitimate. How can one understand other use cases if >one doesn't know abut them? So, trying to find other use cases looks >like a good way to improve one usage to me. Why do you avoid his only >good question? I'm not trying to know who you are: I just believe >knowing more use cases can be inspiring. Following a network conversation between two end systems over three routers and two middleboxes, tcpdump on two Interfaces each, three additional tcpdumps on interfaces just in case there is asymmetric routing, syslog on at least both sides, one firewall log, two tcpdumps with a different filter to see auxillary communication like DNS or RADIUS, probably the client software, added watch netstat, network counters on certain interface etc. You don't need to read everything, it's okay just to see which window moves when from the corner of your eye. People usually don't understand what I see. I do, and usually can point to the system that is preventing communication. Greetings Marc -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Marc Haber | " Questions are the | Mailadresse im Header Rhein-Neckar, DE | Beginning of Wisdom " | Nordisch by Nature | Lt. Worf, TNG "Rightful Heir" | Fon: *49 6224 1600402