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From: Frank Krygowski <frkrygow@sbcglobal.net>
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Subject: Re: Food Prices
Date: Sat, 31 May 2025 20:49:21 -0400
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On 5/31/2025 5:07 PM, Jeff Liebermann wrote:
> On Sat, 31 May 2025 20:42:31 -0000 (UTC), Beej Jorgensen
> <beej@beej.us> wrote:
> 
>> In article <ma12kgF4l8nU1@mid.individual.net>,
>> Roger Merriman  <roger@sarlet.com> wrote:
>>> Jeff Liebermann <jeffl@cruzio.com> wrote:
>>>> - What are the first few letters on the bottom row of a QWERTY
>>>> keyboard?
>>>
>>> Despite being trained as touch typists that escaped me!
>>
>> I think being so-trained or well-practiced makes this a more
>> difficult question. I could get you the answer, but I'd have to imagine
>> typing every letter of the alphabet and keep track of which were on the
>> bottom row. :)
> 
> Actually, it can be easily done and demonstrated.  Find a line drawing
> of a typical QWERTY keyboard that does NOT have the characters and
> functions.
> <https://www.google.com/search?q=qwerty%20keyboard%20without%20labels&udm=2>
> This should work:
> <https://www.learnbydestroying.com/jeffl/crud/keyboard-blank.jpg>
> Print it on paper as close to actual size as possible.
> 
> Then, go through the alphabet A -> Z while pressing the corresponding
> letter on the paper keyboard.  Watch which key you hit.  Every time
> you hit something in the bottom row, scribble it down somewhere.  I
> just tried it and it works (for me).
> 
> My desk usually has one (or more) keyboards buried under a pile of
> paper.  I use it every day for many hours.  One might expect looking
> at the keyboard and using the keyboard would imprint an image of the
> keycaps on my caffeine saturated brain.  Nope.  My blank mind is an
> uncluttered mind.

FWIW, I missed the keyboard question and the $10 bill questions. The 
rest were not hard, mostly because of quirks: I've got a repair project 
pending on my side porch steps; I had to align my reflecting ceiling 
sundial with due north-south, and learned my house is precisely oriented 
that way... etc.

About the blank keyboard, I dimly remember reading about some sort of 
experiment where users learned an internet password entirely by touch, 
so they "knew" it but could generally not say what the letters were.

-- 
- Frank Krygowski