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Path: news.eternal-september.org!eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: solar penguin <solar.penguin@gmail.com> Newsgroups: rec.arts.drwho Subject: Re: The Wisdom of Mrs Blueshirt Date: Mon, 2 Jun 2025 11:31:08 -0000 (UTC) Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 41 Message-ID: <101k21s$392pg$1@dont-email.me> References: <xn0p6j53i1f2w0i00a@post.eweka.nl> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Mon, 02 Jun 2025 13:31:08 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="9ce2fd5a257ddfa635391e891e7b1c2a"; logging-data="3443504"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1+U5AvBtN6SxXePW1sdip8Kli4m6vZ9o4A=" User-Agent: NewsTap/5.5 (iPhone/iPod Touch) Cancel-Lock: sha1:EfnrHRo/msGqZsdmOm0GJztF9CU= sha1:kz+uBnk+H0OJiEaIkKfXOsXxC00= Blueshirt brought us his wife’s brilliance: > > Mrs Blueshirt: "Doctor Who has always been silly." > > <picks up the cups and plates then walks out of the room.> > She’s right, of course. Doctor Who has always been silly, but in a good way and that’s why we love it. The trouble is, DW’s no longer doing it in a good way. It’s hard to explain, so let’s park that and come at it from a different angle. Why was the original Airplane movie so much better than the dozens of imitations it inspired? It wasn’t just all the silly jokes but the way there was a real story hiding behind them. (Literally a real story, taken from an old film called Zero Hour.) Without that the jokes would’ve just seemed pointless. Similarly, my favourite episodes of The Goes Wrong Show, and the specials it spun-off from, are all based on real stories (Peter Pan, A Christmas Carol, the Nativity) with a real plot and a real emotional core. Even the most popular episodes of The Goon Show are the ones like Napoleon’s Piano and The Dreaded Batter Pudding Hurdler, with a sort of plot to them, unlike episodes such as Tiddlywinks which are just silliness for its own sake. DW doesn’t need to ditch the silliness. It just needs to have solid foundation of good storytelling for it to stand on. -- solar penguin PS. Yes, Holy Grail is better than Life of Brian, but that’s just the exception that proves the rule.