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Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Julio Di Egidio <julio@diegidio.name> Newsgroups: sci.physics.relativity Subject: Re: [ANN] SR/InertialFrames v2.2.1 Date: Mon, 2 Jun 2025 15:36:37 +0200 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 72 Message-ID: <101k9d5$38rh2$1@dont-email.me> References: <100keh4$2a7u2$1@dont-email.me> <100vs1t$1cm5u$1@dont-email.me> <BIycnSTIfO9FJa71nZ2dnZfqn_ednZ2d@giganews.com> <1010o80$1qbg5$1@dont-email.me> <1011u58$206dt$1@dont-email.me> <101hhpv$1vuss$1@dont-email.me> <n22dncRD94DA2aD1nZ2dnZfqnPrVd8-z@giganews.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Mon, 02 Jun 2025 15:36:38 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="5be3b72cce3b6f63dc70920cb9ae81c2"; logging-data="3436066"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1+K0Aa7meXwxgYGDFXroGfJjdrnAMtZJm0=" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:VT3qecKOf5DbO5RvD2ZtoimEj6g= Content-Language: en-GB, it In-Reply-To: <n22dncRD94DA2aD1nZ2dnZfqnPrVd8-z@giganews.com> Bytes: 4157 On 02/06/2025 08:27, Ross Finlayson wrote: > On 06/01/2025 05:41 AM, Julio Di Egidio wrote: >> On 26/05/2025 16:34, Julio Di Egidio wrote: >>> On 26/05/2025 05:47, Julio Di Egidio wrote: >> <snip> >>>> Coherence conditions is my best bet, as opposed to >>>> everything goes, as that immediately makes no sense: >>>> ultimately in a quantum mechanical form (information), >>>> but already geometrically because *zero* (proper) >>>> distance along a light-like path I take for serious: >>>> zero distance is direct contact, and even sameness... >>> >>> # A coherence law for retro-causation: the observer. >>> >>> The observer from the future... >> >> "Decoherence as co-coherence." >> >> Consider the (Minkowski) space-time structure (which >> is a mapping of our Universe), and project it onto the >> (isochronous) space of a/"our" proper present: here we >> have *decoherence*, as a loss of quantum information, >> and a "collapse" to classical probabilities. Kind of >> a *co-holographic* principle. > > How is it, "merely a linear continuum", these three > space dimensions and a ray of time? Simple but not over-simple... 1) you should really care not to conflate the map with the territory: coordinate time is not proper time; and, 2) complex systems go with non-linearity: in particular, non-Markovian, i.e. the role of history/memory, whence the need for an absolute/universal frame of reference that is a "line", not just a "point". In particular, the present is and must be a reflection of the whole (analogous to how infinite is preliminary to finite): which is about logical coherence/integrity as a prerequisite (projection/extrapolation), and the *formation power* of that coherence (aka "induction"). More generally, understanding, then (conscientiously) enacting, is more than just fitting the data: "give me a long enough lever and I'll move the Earth" is non-local already... > The practice of super-string theory (where super-strings > are effectively twice as many times smaller than atoms > than physics' atoms are smaller than us) of making > "more dimensions" to book-keep "more infinitesimals" > has that nature does it in less. It's hard to draw judgement on any of that once you realise that incongruences and non-collimations are immediately due to how fundamentally broken infinity is in standard mathematics (and that is just the most concrete of a chain of issues that become more and more severe going past the literal/naive level). Are you going to take it on the physicists that they have been trusting the wrong logic and mathematics? Indeed, I think at this point we can at least clearly see (i.e. looking at my diagrams and the interlocking and scaling there) that/how there are different and not independent scales: of *existence*, not just description... -Julio