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Path: news.eternal-september.org!eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Ben Collver <bencollver@tilde.pink> Newsgroups: comp.misc Subject: Re: AI is Dehumanizing Technology Date: Mon, 2 Jun 2025 13:59:39 -0000 (UTC) Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 27 Message-ID: <101kaoa$3b0c7$1@dont-email.me> References: <101euu8$1519c$1@dont-email.me> <networks-20250601205900@ram.dialup.fu-berlin.de> Injection-Date: Mon, 02 Jun 2025 15:59:39 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="11345e051173961e0238e662edcb4a4c"; logging-data="3506567"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1+ig8huJP0Ubtw3mX1QjGBJX8kwD0nWmeA=" User-Agent: slrn/1.0.3 (Linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:UkADcKCsl6AIYungBYMD5SE8HJg= On 2025-06-01, Stefan Ram <ram@zedat.fu-berlin.de> wrote: > Ben Collver <bencollver@tilde.pink> wrote or quoted: >> For example, to create an LLM such as >>ChatGPT, you'd start with an enormous quantity of text, then do a lot >>of computationally-intense statistical analysis to map out which >>words and phrases are most likely to appear near to one another. >>Crunch the numbers long enough, and you end up with something similar >>to the next-word prediction tool in your phone's text messaging app, >>except that this tool can generate whole paragraphs of mostly >>plausible-sounding word salad. > > If you know your stuff and can actually break down AI or LLMs and get > what's risky about them, speak up, because we need people like you. I remember reading about the dangers of GMO crops. At the time a common modification was to make corn and soy roundup ready. The official research said that roundup was safe for human consumption. I read a story that some found it cheaper to douse surplus roundup on wheat after the harvest rather than buy the normal dessicants. This was not the the intended use nor was this the amount of human exposure reported in the studies. However, it is consistent with the values that produced roundup: profit being more valuable than health or safety. Unintended consequences are bound to come out sideways. Did we need more expertise in GMOs? No, we needed a different approach.