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From: Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net>
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Subject: Re: AMD weighs in on HD versus 4K
Date: Mon, 2 Jun 2025 07:03:36 -0700
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On 6/2/2025 4:56 AM, Xocyll wrote:
> Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> looked up from reading the
> entrails of the porn spammer to utter  "The Augury is good, the signs
> say:
> 
>> On 6/1/2025 9:29 AM, Xocyll wrote:
>>> Spalls Hurgenson <spallshurgenson@gmail.com> looked up from reading the
>>> entrails of the porn spammer to utter  "The Augury is good, the signs
>>> say:
>>>
>>>> On Sun, 01 Jun 2025 08:34:15 -0400, Xocyll <Xocyll@gmx.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid>
>>>>> looked up from reading the entrails of the porn spammer to utter  "The
>>>>> Augury is good, the signs say:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Xocyll <Xocyll@gmx.com> wrote at 09:22 this Wednesday (GMT):
>>>>>>> Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> looked up from reading the
>>>>>>> entrails of the porn spammer to utter  "The Augury is good, the signs
>>>>>>> say:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 5/27/2025 9:02 AM, Spalls Hurgenson wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Recently, Frank Azor -one of the bigwigs at AMD- pointed out that the
>>>>>>>>> vast bulk of PC gamers (and even more with consoles) still play in HD
>>>>>>>>> resolutions rather than $K or higher. Close to 60% of gamers on Steam
>>>>>>>>> still have 1080p monitors. Many of the most-played games don't even
>>>>>>>>> use the added RAM necessary for HD. As such, Azor says, AMD's primary
>>>>>>>>> focus won't be on catering to the UHD/4K gamer, but to the larger
>>>>>>>>> market where 4-8GB VRAM are sufficient.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I feel the same about TV/Streaming/Movies and such.  HD is just fine,
>>>>>>>> I'm not shelling out for the overpriced 4K TVs and re-buying all my
>>>>>>>> DVDs/Blu-Rays for 4K discs.  Most people can't even see a difference
>>>>>>>> between HD and 4K.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hell I don't even buy Blu-Ray if DVD is an option - I literally see no
>>>>>>> difference between them, so 4K Ultra was never in consideration.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Maybe if I had one of those huge-ass TVs I'd see a difference, but the
>>>>>>> 39" I have, you see none.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Xocyll
>>>>>>> -- 
>>>>>>> I don't particularly want you to FOAD, myself. You'll be more of
>>>>>>> a cautionary example if you'll FO And Get Chronically, Incurably,
>>>>>>> Painfully, Progressively, Expensively, Debilitatingly Ill. So
>>>>>>> FOAGCIPPEDI. -- Mike Andrews responding to an idiot in asr
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Same, I prefer DVD just bc it is a massive hassle to set up the Bluray
>>>>>> decryption stuff on a machine, and I literally couldn't care less about
>>>>>> the quality increase.
>>>>>
>>>>> Ahh I don't bother, I just play both disc types in a combo dvd/blueray
>>>>> player that is hooked to the TV.
>>>>>
>>>>> I dislike the menus in blueray, cause they stay open for several seconds
>>>>> after you unpause, blocking the screen, dvd menus vanish instantly.
>>>>
>>>> Any discs I get are immediately ripped to HDD and then shoved in the
>>>> closet with the other ten-million DVDs. I have no time for searching
>>>> for the disks, fiddling with the player to open its door, putting the
>>>> disk in, waiting for it to spin up, being forced to watch the
>>>> inevitable logos and "you wouldn't steal a car" bullshit, navigating
>>>> menus, watching more trailers and then realizing I didn't want to
>>>> actually watch THIS movie but the other one, so I have to repeat the
>>>> whole process.
>>>>
>>>> Rip once, double-click movie file, watch. That's the life.
>>>
>>>
>>> Maybe I'll do that eventually, but it's a bit of a hassle, since some of
>>> the movies are on blue-ray and I don't think either computer players
>>> support anything but cd/dvd.
>>>
>>> That and it would have to be done on the older and slower machine with
>>> the faster internal dvd players, vs the fast new system with an external
>>> and therefore slow-as-hell dvd player.
>>>
>>> Plus I'll need to buy a new 5TB external HD to stick them all on, and
>>> money is kinda tight right now, what with the new meds.
>>>
>>> Get released from hospital after 3 months, with a bunchy of new
>>> prescriptions which totaled over $900 for a 1 month supply.
>>>
>>> New tech is gonna have to wait - blew that budget on the new monitor I
>>> had to buy since one of mine died, and that was well under $200.
>>>
>> Ouch, and sympathies.
>>
>> As for ripping discs, I have been using MakeMKV for years.
>> https://www.makemkv.com/download/  No player should be needed to rip the
>> discs and I've found VLC Media Player handles the files just fine.  All
>> this on a Win10 machine that doesn't have the hardware to go to Win11
>> (which I have no intention to ever willingly "upgrade" to.)
> 
> Been using VLC for ages.    I dislike .mkv as a format - not supported
> by various dvd players, like some won't read .avi - every one supports
> .mp4 though so that's the format I use for most stuff.
> 
> The point of the external HD is I have a 2TB one and it plugs into the
> USB jack on the dvd/blue-ray player just dandy.
> That USB jack won't take a USB stick over 32GB, but accesses a 2TB HD
> just fine, which means I can watch recorded TV shows and ripped stuff on
> the 39" TV instead of a 27" monitor and use a more comfortable chair.
> 
> Or indeed spin the stand 90 degrees and watch from bed.
> 
There are a number of MKV to MP4 converters out there.  *shrug*  But I 
do find it strange that your player will read a 2TB HD but not a smaller 
USB stick.

-- 
I've done good in this world. Now I'm tired and just want to be a cranky 
dirty old man.