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https://www.cidrap.umn.edu/avian-influenza-bird-flu/study-finds-live-avian-flu-virus-raw-milk-more-1-day-room-temperature-1

Some UK workers seem to have redone research that had already been done 
on the US on the survival of influneza in milk, and found pretty much 
the same thing.  Infective virus can survive in refrigerated milk for 
about a week.  This has been known for for over half a year in the US. 
The CDC's own study indicating that the virus might survive the most 
common form of pasteurization got the FDA to finally try to test the 
milk products back in Oct 2024.

The CIDRAP claims that it has been shown that pasteurization kills the 
virus, but actually the proper study was never done.  All the FDA did 
was test several hundred samples of dairy products that they got out of 
retail stores and they did not find live virus in the positive samples. 
There was no control for how long the milk products had existed after 
pasteurization.  The CDC found that the virus would stay infective for 
at least 4 days.  The FDA announced that they were going to do more 
testing of pasteurized milk after the CDC research was published in Oct. 
2024, but their "Silo Study" never got off the ground, and no results 
were ever published on what they found if they had even tried.  The last 
report on the study had them looking for volunteers (milk processing 
plants and dairy farms), but apparently they didn't get any takers.  It 
was a stupid study design that likely would not have answered the 
question effectively.  They needed to go to processing plants accepting 
infected milk and test the milk before processing and at various points 
during processing, but that was never done.  The Missouri patients and 
one California child's only contact with dairy cows was the dairy 
products that they ingested, but they never tested the processing plants 
involved.

Ron Okimoto

Ron Okimoto