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Path: news.eternal-september.org!eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Titus G <noone@nowhere.com> Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.written Subject: Re: Clarke Award Finalists 1998 Date: Tue, 3 Jun 2025 17:42:51 +1200 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 45 Message-ID: <101m20g$3qnfo$3@dont-email.me> References: <1011q98$e4b$1@reader1.panix.com> <1013h57$2es6f$1@dont-email.me> <SJkZP.33429$gk13.21521@fx06.iad> Reply-To: noone@nowhere.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Tue, 03 Jun 2025 07:42:41 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="6c51fdc81d35e7701ee4e5ba39d8e3b8"; logging-data="4021752"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1/E8O+7JY7/gMCqXlgXsapQ" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:JA+/rxs1wXaFZwUa3VySRXcCo2Y= In-Reply-To: <SJkZP.33429$gk13.21521@fx06.iad> Content-Language: en-AU On 28/05/25 03:19, a425couple wrote: > On 5/26/25 22:04, Titus G wrote: >> On 27/05/25 01:28, James Nicoll wrote: >>> 1998! The Good Friday Agreement gives Tories something new to undermine, >>> Former Conservative Cabinet Minister Enoch Powell makes his greatest >>> contribution to Britain by dying, and Andrew Wakefield's fraudulent >>> paper >>> puts him in the running with Thomas Midgley Jr. for single individual >>> who did the most to undermine public health. >>> > (Strange! I sent a reply yesterday. And as I view the newsgroup, > it is marked as a little bluish arrow next to Nichols original post, > but then when opened, there is nothing there. It is also not in my > "sent mail", nor in "drafts", nor in the backlog. ???) > >>> Which 1998 Clarke Award Finalists Have You Read? >> >> I have read >> The Sparrow by Mary Doria Russell >> >>> I have only read the Russell, which was Xtian tosh, and the Baxter, >>> which >>> was much worse. Would not be surprised if I read the worst two of that >>> set. >> >> I thought that the Sparrow was absolutely brilliant as a horror story >> which basically addressed the Xtian question of whether great suffering >> was necessary to produce great art. There were further complications to >> result in a great read. Five stars. >> > I read "The Sparrow" quite recently. (Gave a copy of it to a friend, > who loved it. He also loved the sequel.) I quite enjoyed the sci-fi > and the world expanding and loving creation of new situations. I did > not enjoy the torture and 'abandonment' acts and feelings. I understand. That was probably the most horrible horror I have read. There was also the horror of the injustice in regard to the death of the young girl. > I got about 1/3 of way through the sequel, then due to sadness and > onfusion, stalled out. I have the sequel but because of my dislike of that type of horror, I have not opened it.