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Path: news.eternal-september.org!eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> Newsgroups: misc.phone.mobile.iphone Subject: Re: Good news: Apple finally stopped putting garbage RAM in the iPhone Date: Tue, 3 Jun 2025 07:23:48 -0000 (UTC) Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 38 Message-ID: <101m7u4$3sfou$1@dont-email.me> References: <101f2tb$6to$1@nnrp.usenet.blueworldhosting.com> <101f59j$172hg$1@dont-email.me> <ASudndGIMob1-KH1nZ2dnZfqnPudnZ2d@supernews.com> <101hv61$7n8$1@nnrp.usenet.blueworldhosting.com> <an6dndohvdF3W6H1nZ2dnZfqnPednZ2d@supernews.com> <101itqt$2fgl$1@nnrp.usenet.blueworldhosting.com> <101juv3$389hk$1@dont-email.me> <101kccj$25iv$1@nnrp.usenet.blueworldhosting.com> <101ktmn$3fp20$1@dont-email.me> <101m2cp$1e7g$1@nnrp.usenet.blueworldhosting.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Tue, 03 Jun 2025 09:23:48 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="242434ab65e89226ff48e084c8894334"; logging-data="4079390"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX19SrGiIWIT1G46AoSEGmRRyvmHaqqqpNP0=" User-Agent: NewsTap/5.6 (iPhone/iPod Touch) Cancel-Lock: sha1:VedYhjO1Lrop12C3FNDC3DdUD6s= sha1:2Z6tHrEDgvyUICP1awlD5Ij5keA= Marion <marion@facts.com> wrote: > On Mon, 2 Jun 2025 19:23:03 -0000 (UTC), Chris wrote : > > >> Of course it's correct. The number of cycles a battery can manage is >> unrelated to its capacity. It's a design feature. Doesn't matter whether >> it's 10,000 or 1,000 mAh. It's simply that the 80% threshold differs. >> >>> but it would be an interesting discussion in and of >>> itself, Chris >> >> Not with you, it wouldn't. > > Chris, > Maybe you need a refresher course in arithmetic. Doubtful. From you? Impossible. > Take two similar phones, where one has a cheap battery (obviously that's > the iPhone) and the other has a battery double its size. > > Use those two phones similarly every day for a couple of years, charging > the iPhone every night (because you have to) and charging the Android when > it needs it (because it doesn't need to be charged overnight like iPhones). > > Knowing that a "charge cycle" is not the number of charges, but the number > of 100% charges, add them up. > > Which phone is *always* going to reach the degradation point first in time? Irrelevant. You're letting your bias cloud your judgement, yet again. The EU regs require that a battery retains a minimum 80% of its capacity for at least 1000 cycles. It doesn't matter whether that 80% is 8000 or 800 mAh nor that the 1000 cycles take two years or two weeks of typical usage. All scenarios are equally compliant.