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From: AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org>
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Subject: Re: What the Constitution, Supreme Court say about 'due process' for
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Date: Tue, 3 Jun 2025 08:40:53 -0500
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On 6/3/2025 8:20 AM, Catrike Ryder wrote:
> On Tue, 3 Jun 2025 07:59:37 -0500, AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote:
> 
>> On 6/3/2025 3:31 AM, Catrike Ryder wrote:
>>> On Tue, 3 Jun 2025 01:57:37 -0000 (UTC), Beej Jorgensen <beej@beej.us>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> In article <101i16r$2ados$1@dont-email.me>, AMuzi  <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote:
>>>>> I believe he's referring to ID/arrest errors. They have happened. They
>>>>> are few. They been well publicized.
>>>>
>>>> The ones you know of, anyway.
>>>>
>>>> One of the reason that due process is so important for everyone is so
>>>> the government can't just point its finger at *you*, say "MS-13", and
>>>> put you on a plane to a foreign prison from which they have no power to
>>>> remove you.
>>>>
>>>> Why would they do that? Maybe you're here illegally and have a tattoo.
>>>> Or maybe you just said something someone didn't like and "oops" you're
>>>> gone. "Our mistake, sorry. No, we can't bring him home. So sorry about
>>>> that."
>>>>
>>>>> but administrative remedies are established.
>>>>
>>>> Unless you're in a Salvadorian prison, in which case they aren't.
>>>>
>>>> Franklin said he'd rather see 100 criminals go free before one innocent
>>>> person was incarcerated. That's the level of care we should be taking.
>>>>
>>>> IMHO.
>>>
>>> I believe that is the current "level of care."  I haven't seen anyone
>>> sent to the Salvadorian prison who doesn't belong there.
>>>
>>> --
>>> C'est bon
>>> Soloman
>>
>> There was a false statement inserted into a filing in re
>> Kilmar Abrego Garcia that he had been deported in error. The
>> Justice Department employee who added that was fired the
>> next morning and the filing emended, but not before many
>> reports and the clutching of pearls. That breathless
>> reportage, false though it may be, persists.
>>
>> That is not a civil rights problem. It's a problem of
>> disinformation and propaganda.  As Monday morning's NYT for
>> example, whose front page did not cover the immolation of
>> live US citizens, including a Holocaust survivor, in Boulder
>> by an illegal jihadi screaming 'free palestine.' Deemed not
>> interesting enough by editorial staff.
>>
>> https://forward.com/news/724924/boulder-firebomb-attack-antisemitism/
>>
>> They did give front page placement to the false report of 40
>> arabs shot dead in Gaza by IDF, which in fact did not
>> happen. That false report was all over the radio yesterday
>> as well (I do not own a television) despite multiple
>> immediate corrections by people who were there, including video.
>>
>> https://www.fdd.org/analysis/2025/06/02/false-reporting-ghf-counters-widespread-media-claims-of-israeli-attack-on-palestinians-seeking-aid-in-gaza/
>>
>> Sadly, just as Ms Palin never said anything remotely like,
>> "I can see Russia from my house", the skewing of perception
>> continues in this as in all things, with great success.
> 
> I'm beginning to wonder how safe it is for me to wander around in my
> "I STAND WITH ISRAEL" SHIRT, like I did yesterday.
> 
> --
> C'est bon
> Soloman

25 years ago, at the second intifada, I put a 5x8 inch 
Israeli mogen on my shop front door. The glass was promptly 
smashed that evening and several times after, cracks 
radiating from the flag each time.

And not only random pedestrians:
http://www.yellowjersey.org/photosfromthepast/NAZI.JPG

-- 
Andrew Muzi
am@yellowjersey.org
Open every day since 1 April, 1971