Path: news.eternal-september.org!eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail
From: AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org>
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.tech
Subject: Re: What the Constitution, Supreme Court say about 'due process' for
 Trump deportees:
Date: Wed, 4 Jun 2025 08:43:27 -0500
Organization: Yellow Jersey, Ltd.
Lines: 89
Message-ID: <101piht$rahk$5@dont-email.me>
References: <atmo3khh39c4ourcmsomm5smij938e6ai2@4ax.com>
 <101hsku$26lq0$6@dont-email.me> <javo3kh338hi3btp8df8llti02i6q7ra0h@4ax.com>
 <101i16r$2ados$1@dont-email.me> <101lkqh$3kj7o$1@dont-email.me>
 <pnct3k1grlt8flup51ass2pgtactgkfnrd@4ax.com> <101mrjn$aqa$1@dont-email.me>
 <101n4p9$2sls$1@dont-email.me> <101nkr7$7nm8$1@dont-email.me>
 <101nnvp$8qi5$1@dont-email.me> <101p3nr$3ua51$11@dont-email.me>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
Injection-Date: Wed, 04 Jun 2025 15:43:26 +0200 (CEST)
Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="574bfc2ccfb3bfd0c3a199719d95e1da";
	logging-data="895540"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org";	posting-account="U2FsdGVkX19d55plQxmlogkdvciQ7/QQ"
User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird
Cancel-Lock: sha1:xGznwmTsavch8icjkPljOw2uSio=
In-Reply-To: <101p3nr$3ua51$11@dont-email.me>
Content-Language: en-US

On 6/4/2025 4:30 AM, zen cycle wrote:
> On 6/3/2025 5:03 PM, AMuzi wrote:
>> On 6/3/2025 3:10 PM, Zen Cycle wrote:
>>> On 6/3/2025 11:36 AM, Frank Krygowski wrote:
>>>> On 6/3/2025 8:59 AM, AMuzi wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> There was a false statement inserted into a filing in 
>>>>> re Kilmar Abrego Garcia that he had been deported in 
>>>>> error. The Justice Department employee who added that 
>>>>> was fired the next morning and the filing emended...
>>>>
>>>> Got a citation or other evidence for that claim? And 
>>>> what did the courts say about this issue? And where is 
>>>> Mr. Garcia now?
>>>
>>> Right, The government narrative kept changing, coming up 
>>> with different excuses, right down to trump retweeting a 
>>> photo shopped (fake) image of Mr. Garcia with gang 
>>> tattoos. Once they were unable to convince anyone with 
>>> any brains that he had no criminal past, they brought out 
>>> a domestic abuse complaint from ten years ago - complete 
>>> bullshit as well.
>>>
>>>>
>>>>> As Monday morning's NYT for example, whose front page 
>>>>> did not cover the immolation of live US citizens, 
>>>>> including a Holocaust survivor, in Boulder by an 
>>>>> illegal jihadi screaming 'free palestine.' Deemed not 
>>>>> interesting enough by editorial staff.
>>>>
>>>> I don't get a print edition of NYT; but your complaint 
>>>> seems to be that eight people getting various degrees of 
>>>> burns did not get enough attention, despite it being on 
>>>> every news outlet. It looks to me like NYT has since 
>>>> done many articles on the incident and its implications. 
>>>> Are you trying to say NYT does sufficiently protest 
>>>> antisemitism?
>>>>
>>>> And BTW, what happened was despicable. As you know, I'm 
>>>> firmly against attempts to harm or kill groups of 
>>>> innocent people. But "immolation of live US citizens" is 
>>>> more than a little exaggerated. It usually means burning 
>>>> to death. I gather only one person out of the eight was 
>>>> seriously burned.
>>>>
>>>> There's no excuse for the attack, but you can slightly 
>>>> relax your grip on your own pearls!
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>> At his previous 2019 hearing, after his deportation order, 
>> the removal was stayed as the judge found that his MS-13 
>> gang membership put him at risk in his old neighborhood 
>> controlled by a competing gang.
>>
>> (details are messy as he had lived both in El Salvador and 
>> in Guatemala)
>>
>> https://tennesseestar.com/news/immigration-judges-2019- 
>> order-found- kilmar-abrego-garcia-subject-to-removal-by- 
>> deportation-but-granted- withholding-of-removal-to- 
>> guatemala-though-referencing-el-salvador/ 
>> tpappert/2025/04/22/
>>
>> The prior administration also denied assistance to 
>> Tennessee State Patrol in 2022 when they stopped him in 
>> the car of a known trafficker with a load of smuggled 
>> illegals while speeding with no valid license. FBI 
>> directed TSP to not detain him.
>>
>> https://tennesseestar.com/justice/tennessee-highway- 
>> patrol-confirms- biden-era-fbi-told-officers-to-release- 
>> kilmar-abrego-garcia-during-2022- traffic-stop-despite- 
>> speeding-and-license-violations-to/ tpappert/2025/04/17/
>>
>   Uncorroborated allegations.."sources said"...."two 
> (unnamed) judges determined he is likely to be a member of 
> the Central American gang, Mara Salvatrucha"....iow, more 
> trump ICE/DOJ lies to cover their assess.


The judge who, in 2019, stayed deportation to Guatemala _due 
to his gang affiliation_ wrote his decision. It was not 
appealed.

-- 
Andrew Muzi
am@yellowjersey.org
Open every day since 1 April, 1971