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From: Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com>
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Subject: Re: Where Are The Computer Companies?
Date: Wed, 4 Jun 2025 08:37:49 -0700
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On 2025-06-04 00:12, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:
> On Tue, 3 Jun 2025 21:45:14 -0700, Alan wrote:
> 
>> On 2025-06-03 21:10, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:
>>>
>>> On Tue, 3 Jun 2025 19:48:33 -0700, Alan wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 2025-06-03 19:43, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, 3 Jun 2025 18:34:22 -0700, Alan wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> So having a choice of GUIs somehow makes the underlying OS
>>>>>> components different?
>>>>>
>>>>> It is macOS that is “different” from how people expect a “Unix”
>>>>> system to behave, not the Linuxes and BSDs. Offering a choice of GUIs
>>>>> (or no GUI at all), is part of how people expect a “Unix” system to
>>>>> behave.
>>>>
>>>> That doesn't even attempt to answer my question.
>>>
>>> You were the one trying to imply, somehow, that Apple’s “Unix” hews
>>> closer to the tradition of what “Unix” is supposed to be about. It’s
>>> not.
>>
>> Nope.
>>
>> Literally nothing I said implied anything like that.
> 
> Your words are right up there: “So having a choice of GUIs somehow makes
> the underlying OS components different?” Did you mean them, or didn’t you?

1. I was asking a question of YOU.

2. Those words don't imply anything about "hewing closer" to anything.

> 
>>> It is macOS that is “different” from how people expect a “Unix” system
>>> to behave, not the Linuxes and BSDs. Offering a choice of GUIs (or no
>>> GUI at all), is part of how people expect a “Unix” system to behave.
>>
>> People's expectations don't define what something is.
> 
> That’s how language works. Words mean what they are generally expected to
> mean.

And?

Just because Apple uses Unix in a different manner doesn't make it into 
"not Unix".