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From: Zen Cycle <funkmaster@hotmail.com>
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Subject: Re: What the Constitution, Supreme Court say about 'due process' for
 Trump deportees:
Date: Wed, 4 Jun 2025 15:53:53 -0400
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On 6/4/2025 9:43 AM, AMuzi wrote:
> On 6/4/2025 4:30 AM, zen cycle wrote:
>> On 6/3/2025 5:03 PM, AMuzi wrote:
>>> On 6/3/2025 3:10 PM, Zen Cycle wrote:
>>>> On 6/3/2025 11:36 AM, Frank Krygowski wrote:
>>>>> On 6/3/2025 8:59 AM, AMuzi wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> There was a false statement inserted into a filing in re Kilmar 
>>>>>> Abrego Garcia that he had been deported in error. The Justice 
>>>>>> Department employee who added that was fired the next morning and 
>>>>>> the filing emended...
>>>>>
>>>>> Got a citation or other evidence for that claim? And what did the 
>>>>> courts say about this issue? And where is Mr. Garcia now?
>>>>
>>>> Right, The government narrative kept changing, coming up with 
>>>> different excuses, right down to trump retweeting a photo shopped 
>>>> (fake) image of Mr. Garcia with gang tattoos. Once they were unable 
>>>> to convince anyone with any brains that he had no criminal past, 
>>>> they brought out a domestic abuse complaint from ten years ago - 
>>>> complete bullshit as well.
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> As Monday morning's NYT for example, whose front page did not 
>>>>>> cover the immolation of live US citizens, including a Holocaust 
>>>>>> survivor, in Boulder by an illegal jihadi screaming 'free 
>>>>>> palestine.' Deemed not interesting enough by editorial staff.
>>>>>
>>>>> I don't get a print edition of NYT; but your complaint seems to be 
>>>>> that eight people getting various degrees of burns did not get 
>>>>> enough attention, despite it being on every news outlet. It looks 
>>>>> to me like NYT has since done many articles on the incident and its 
>>>>> implications. Are you trying to say NYT does sufficiently protest 
>>>>> antisemitism?
>>>>>
>>>>> And BTW, what happened was despicable. As you know, I'm firmly 
>>>>> against attempts to harm or kill groups of innocent people. But 
>>>>> "immolation of live US citizens" is more than a little exaggerated. 
>>>>> It usually means burning to death. I gather only one person out of 
>>>>> the eight was seriously burned.
>>>>>
>>>>> There's no excuse for the attack, but you can slightly relax your 
>>>>> grip on your own pearls!
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>> At his previous 2019 hearing, after his deportation order, the 
>>> removal was stayed as the judge found that his MS-13 gang membership 
>>> put him at risk in his old neighborhood controlled by a competing gang.
>>>
>>> (details are messy as he had lived both in El Salvador and in Guatemala)
>>>
>>> https://tennesseestar.com/news/immigration-judges-2019- order-found- 
>>> kilmar-abrego-garcia-subject-to-removal-by- deportation-but-granted- 
>>> withholding-of-removal-to- guatemala-though-referencing-el-salvador/ 
>>> tpappert/2025/04/22/
>>>
>>> The prior administration also denied assistance to Tennessee State 
>>> Patrol in 2022 when they stopped him in the car of a known trafficker 
>>> with a load of smuggled illegals while speeding with no valid 
>>> license. FBI directed TSP to not detain him.
>>>
>>> https://tennesseestar.com/justice/tennessee-highway- patrol-confirms- 
>>> biden-era-fbi-told-officers-to-release- kilmar-abrego-garcia- 
>>> during-2022- traffic-stop-despite- speeding-and-license-violations- 
>>> to/ tpappert/2025/04/17/
>>>
>>   Uncorroborated allegations.."sources said"...."two (unnamed) judges 
>> determined he is likely to be a member of the Central American gang, 
>> Mara Salvatrucha"....iow, more trump ICE/DOJ lies to cover their assess.
> 
> 
> The judge who, in 2019, stayed deportation to Guatemala _due to his gang 
> affiliation_ wrote his decision. It was not appealed.
> 

Got a link? I couldn't find anything except trump DOJ heresay.

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