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On 6/5/2025 12:15 AM, Frank Krygowski wrote:
> On 6/4/2025 7:43 AM, Catrike Ryder wrote:
>>> kilmar-abrego-garciaOn Wed, 4 Jun 2025 13:27:52 +0200, Rolf Mantel 
>>> <news@hartig-mantel.de> wrote:
>>
>>> Am 04.06.2025 um 11:52 schrieb Catrike Ryder:
>>>> On Wed, 4 Jun 2025 11:23:34 +0200, Rolf Mantel <news@hartig-mantel.de>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Am 04.06.2025 um 10:31 schrieb Catrike Ryder:
>>>>>> On Wed, 4 Jun 2025 01:10:55 -0000 (UTC), Beej Jorgensen 
>>>>>> <beej@beej.us>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> In article <d3vu3k5sec04fbqhmm6sjdktd2t9t5v81r@4ax.com>,
>>>>>>> Catrike Ryder  <Soloman@old.bikers.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>> I'm neither in the USA illegally, nor have I committed any 
>>>>>>>> crimes, so
>>>>>>>> you needn't worry.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I'm not worried that you're in the US illegally or have committed 
>>>>>>> any
>>>>>>> crimes. I'm worried that the government will *say* you're in the 
>>>>>>> country
>>>>>>> illegally and then ship you off.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> There is no law that says the government cannot say you are in the
>>>>>>> country illegally. The only thing protecting you is the fact that 
>>>>>>> you
>>>>>>> get a hearing.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> You clearly trust the government far more than I do to be willing to
>>>>>>> waive this right.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> US citizens should indeed get a hearing.
>>>>>
>>>>> Do you mean "people who claim to be US citizens" should get a 
>>>>> hearing to
>>>>> verify whether they are indeed US citizens?
>>>>
>>>> No
>>>
>>> So you claim to be a US citizen, the government claim you're not.
>>> Should you get a hearing or should the government deport you without a
>>> hearing?
>>
>> Good grief...   I'm not going to respond to your hypothetical question
>> about something that's not going to happen.
> 
> ... if you're white enough!

Or not:

Fabian Schmidt, German citizen, electrical engineer living in the US 
since 2008, and with a green card since 2015. Detained by ICE at Logan 
Airport in Boston then held in ICE detention centers for two months. Why?

https://www.newsweek.com/green-card-fabian-schmidt-holder-detained-ice-immigratioon-2072698

While living in California:

"a 2016 drug-related offense in California that was eventually dismissed 
and a DUI from the same year that led to fines and a probation sentence."

In other words, he was charged, and paid the penalties. But then:
"He alleged that authorities conducted a strip search, confiscated his 
smartwatch, and refused to let him contact a lawyer, the German 
consulate or his family."

"A few days after being detained, Schmidt said he was transported in 
shackles to the Donald W. Wyatt Detention Facility in Rhode Island.... 
After nearly two months in detention, Schmidt received word that he 
would be released."

Another stellar case of the trump administration rooting out the worst 
of the worst.





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