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From: AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org>
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.tech
Subject: Re: What the Constitution, Supreme Court say about 'due process' for
 Trump deportees:
Date: Thu, 5 Jun 2025 13:14:40 -0500
Organization: Yellow Jersey, Ltd.
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On 6/5/2025 12:59 PM, Beej Jorgensen wrote:
> In article <1il14k1qafnttu1oeqhfg0qpdfuc6c3o93@4ax.com>,
> Catrike Ryder  <Soloman@old.bikers.org> wrote:
>> No, they mnay have got a hearing when they showed that they were
>> citizens, but not before.
> 
> And so you must always carry proof of citizenship 100% of the time, or
> else you're deported without hearing. Don't leave home without it, kids.
> 

I'm not advocating either way but merely being a US citizen 
and walking around with no ID can get you arrested (depends 
on the jurisdiction and circumstances).

https://www.criminaldefenselawyer.com/crime-penalties/federal/Failure-identify-police-officer.htm

https://legalclarity.org/do-you-have-to-identify-yourself-to-the-police/

There were (are?) places where no ID and "no visible means 
of support" is defined as vagrancy = 3 days and a ride to 
the county line.  Happened to me, long ago.
-- 
Andrew Muzi
am@yellowjersey.org
Open every day since 1 April, 1971