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Path: news.eternal-september.org!eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: "Adam H. Kerman" <ahk@chinet.com> Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv Subject: Re: Self defense injustice in the UK Date: Thu, 5 Jun 2025 18:44:50 -0000 (UTC) Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 43 Message-ID: <101soj2$1n4ob$2@dont-email.me> References: <1018s5j$3nifm$1@dont-email.me> <101sjcp$1lq58$1@dont-email.me> <101snrv$1mo8q$1@dont-email.me> <101so68$1mspc$1@dont-email.me> Injection-Date: Thu, 05 Jun 2025 20:44:51 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="008e3ed334d06a49073b099f6c931db0"; logging-data="1807115"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX18f0lzKMPSFrw/PQDYF45ymRcVIUuF6Pw0=" Cancel-Lock: sha1:GPC15IBz6lJEfuBnacqFqVnZ8cg= X-Newsreader: trn 4.0-test77 (Sep 1, 2010) BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote: >On Jun 5, 2025 at 11:32:30 AM PDT, "moviePig" <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote: > >> On 6/5/2025 1:16 PM, BTR1701 wrote: >>> On Jun 5, 2025 at 8:26:42 AM PDT, "moviePig" <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote: >>> >>>> On 6/5/2025 12:57 AM, BTR1701 wrote: >>>>> On Jun 4, 2025 at 5:06:29 PM PDT, "The Horny Goat" <lcraver@home.ca> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> On Sat, 31 May 2025 22:48:37 -0400, moviePig <nobody@nowhere.com> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> I'm guessing that, if he'd tried instead to choke her to >death, then her >>>>>>> knifing him would've been allowed as self-defense ...suggesting that >>>>>>> rape isn't a serious enough offense to warrant lethal reprisal. >>>>>>> >>>>>> I'm undecided where exactly the dividing line should be in >>>>>> self-defence cases but it definitely ought to be shy of "lie back and >>>>>> think of the Empire"! >>>>> >>>>> I you've broken into my home, then you're leaving in a body bag >if I have >>>>> anything to say about it. My dividing line is the threshold of the >>>>> doors and >>>>> windows. >>>> >>>> Well, that does kinda elevate simple burglary into a capital crime. >>> >>> If you don't want to be shot to death while breaking into someone's home to >>> steal from them, there's a 100% effective way of guaranteeing that never >>> happens to you: don't break into people's homes and steal from them. >> >> That has a smidgen of resonance with "let them eat cake". > >No one has a right to my property and they certainly don't have a right to put >me and my family in danger when trying to take it. > >Fuck around and find out. Again, this is the UK. You are in danger only if the home invader also uses language that makes you feel bad.