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From: moviePig <nobody@nowhere.com>
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Subject: Re: Self defense injustice in the UK
Date: Thu, 5 Jun 2025 16:22:00 -0400
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On 6/5/2025 2:38 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
> On Jun 5, 2025 at 11:32:30 AM PDT, "moviePig" <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:
> 
>> On 6/5/2025 1:16 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>>   On Jun 5, 2025 at 8:26:42 AM PDT, "moviePig" <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:
>>>   
>>>>   On 6/5/2025 12:57 AM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>>>>     On Jun 4, 2025 at 5:06:29 PM PDT, "The Horny Goat" <lcraver@home.ca>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>     
>>>>>>     On Sat, 31 May 2025 22:48:37 -0400, moviePig <nobody@nowhere.com>
>>>>>>     wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>     I'm guessing that, if he'd tried instead to choke her to death, then her
>>>>>>>     knifing him would've been allowed as self-defense ...suggesting that
>>>>>>>     rape isn't a serious enough offense to warrant lethal reprisal.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>     I'm undecided where exactly the dividing line should be in
>>>>>>     self-defence cases but it definitely ought to be shy of "lie back and
>>>>>>     think of the Empire"!
>>>>>     
>>>>>     I you've broken into my home, then you're leaving in a body bag if I have
>>>>>     anything to say about it. My dividing line is the threshold of the
>>>>> doors and
>>>>>     windows.
>>>>
>>>>   Well, that does kinda elevate simple burglary into a capital crime.
>>>   
>>> If you don't want to be shot to death while breaking into someone's home to
>>> steal from them, there's a 100% effective way of guaranteeing that never
>>> happens to you: don't break into people's homes and steal from them.
>>
>> That has a smidgen of resonance with "let them eat cake".
> 
> No one has a right to my property and they certainly don't have a right to put
> me and my family in danger when trying to take it.
> 
> Fuck around and find out.

Chest-thumping aside... your proposed law, as I extrapolate it, awards a 
homeowner cancellation rights over the life of any intruder.  A parallel 
that comes to mind is the Old West's summary lynching of horse thieves 
....but the rationale there (I'm told) was that a horse back then was 
essential to survival, making the theft of one a "capital" crime.