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Path: news.eternal-september.org!eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: x <x@x.org> Newsgroups: sci.physics Subject: Re: What is a photon Date: Thu, 5 Jun 2025 13:23:14 -0700 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 101 Message-ID: <101subi$1o1ec$1@dont-email.me> References: <9af3e95b721801ec23446e0d70f081b3@www.novabbs.org> <%5W_P.1199819$lZjd.237071@fx05.ams4> <101hdi1$2104j$1@dont-email.me> <3fe4ff53feee25131897dec6bed26616@www.novabbs.com> <101mlhj$3v6bs$1@dont-email.me> <b3c79148a2a73e05267102dc02069b51@www.novabbs.org> <mad5upF9t4jU10@mid.individual.net> <eab2e0c2ee6c90069a8bf19695dc4049@www.novabbs.org> <101sljp$e19d$2@solani.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Thu, 05 Jun 2025 22:23:15 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="55679dcb5dddabe29483bb9773af1067"; logging-data="1836492"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX18oTbFjPyz7dRFn6JQVStkq4i/MItenKvI=" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:102.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/102.11.0 Cancel-Lock: sha1:NbOBxDEF775u4upSXgXYOxzt8nw= Content-Language: en-US In-Reply-To: <101sljp$e19d$2@solani.org> On 6/5/25 10:54, Physfitfreak wrote: > On 6/5/25 7:41 AM, Bertitaylor wrote: >> On Thu, 5 Jun 2025 9:24:35 +0000, Thomas Heger wrote: >> >>> Am Mittwoch000004, 04.06.2025 um 10:39 schrieb Bertitaylor: >>> .... >>>>>>>> Experiments show that the speed of light is invariant: [...] >>>>>>>> How is that possible if light is waves in an aether ? >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Speed of light has to be variant in the Copernican model. Light is a >>>>>> wave. All waves need media to propagate. Light's medium is aether. >>>>> >>>>> A bit confused, Bertietaylor? >>>> >>>> Not at all. >>>> >>>>> The Copernican model is wrong, the Sun isn't the centre of the >>>>> Universe. >>>>> And in 1543 Copernicus knew nothing about the speed of light. >>>> >>>> The Sun is at the centre of the solar system, of which you may have >>>> heard. The Earth goes around the Sun. The Sun and the planets do NOT go >>>> around the Earth in crystal spheres. Where the stars are supposedly >>>> light from Heaven casting their light through pricks on the crystal >>>> spheres. >>> >>> >>> The solar system moves around the center of our home galaxy and this >>> galaxy around the center of our local super-cluster and that around what >>> only heaven knows. >>> >>> So: everything moves! >>> >>> BUT: we could use a simple trick and stop motion for at least the >>> observer. >> >> Just not possible. Your observer may SEEM still but he is on a platform >> that is moving. >>> >>> >>> This would make 'at rest' 'relative' and we could say, that all >>> observers are of equal rights, hence all observers are at rest. But they >>> are only at rest for themselves, while for any other they move. >> >> Nobody can ve at rest. Even a snail is moving at 30km per sec around the >> Sun. >>> >>> This means essentially the same thing: everything moves. >> Yes ja da oui with wohls on. >>> >>> That's why the universe cannot have a center (because that center would >>> not move). >> >> As the universe is infinite all points in the universe can be its >> centre. >>> >>> Also the so called 'big-bang' must be 'relative'. >> None of that big bang bollocks, please. >>> >>> This sounds strange and unsatisfying. But I don't think so, because it >>> is actually much easier to understand than current standard cosmology. >> >> An infinite universe has to be eternal. >> However stars go through multi trillion year cycles. >> >> Woof woof >> >> Bertietaylor >>> >>> TH >> >> -- > > > Get beheaded, Hindu. The word 'diabolis' means 'to cast against'. There is also the sixth commandment 'thou shalt not kill'. Then there is the question, are beliefs something that one can control, or are they the product of an external environment? I may have already posted this, but out of respect for the second phrase some of my earlier statements are repealed. Nonetheless, I think it is also reasonable to say that is not possible for words to have meaning to human beings anyway. Humans are animals controlled by their base instincts, and all words emitted by humans follow this. It is not possible for the word of any person to be good. It is not possible for a person to adopt any religion. Have a nice day. You can get back to naysaying physical laws.