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From: AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org>
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Subject: Re: What the Constitution, Supreme Court say about 'due process' for
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Date: Fri, 6 Jun 2025 13:52:28 -0500
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On 6/6/2025 1:09 PM, Frank Krygowski wrote:
> On 6/6/2025 11:01 AM, AMuzi wrote:
>> On 6/6/2025 9:35 AM, Jeff Liebermann wrote:
>>> ... they wanted only English
>>> instruction.  That's because knowing English will get 
>>> them a much
>>> better paying job in the US than Spanish.
>>
>> Same conclusion to the same problem by Italians 100 years 
>> ago.
> 
> A couple points here:
> 
> 1) My grandparents were born in Poland, my parents born 
> here. They spoke Polish in the home, but my parents never 
> taught us the language. It was clear they wanted us to be 
> fully American. I now regret their choice. Any language is 
> difficult to learn later in life, and Polish is one of the 
> tougher European languages.
> 
> 2) One dear friend of mine, for years, taught English As A 
> Second Language to immigrants. Amazingly, she had classes of 
> 10 to 20 students from a mixture of countries; so the 
> majority not only had no English, they had no languages in 
> common with each other. Many were illiterate in all 
> languages, including their own. I can't possibly imagine how 
> a person could teach such a crew, but she had great success. 
> Apparently the objective was not perfect English. Instead it 
> was survival - here's how to use our money, our bus systems, 
> find a job, etc. - but it worked.
> 
> When she left that job, I was invited to a "going away" 
> party attended by many of her former students. It was an 
> amazing mixture of nationalities (and ethnic foods and 
> music). You could see they absolutely loved that lady.
> 
> 

Your family's experience mirrors mine. I have the same 
feeling about the lost opportunity.

-- 
Andrew Muzi
am@yellowjersey.org
Open every day since 1 April, 1971