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Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> Newsgroups: comp.theory,comp.ai.philosophy,sci.logic Subject: Re: The execution trace of HHH1(DDD) shows the divergence Date: Sat, 7 Jun 2025 09:54:25 -0500 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 52 Message-ID: <1021jr1$3327l$7@dont-email.me> References: <1021ii4$3327l$6@dont-email.me> <1021jls$32035$1@dont-email.me> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Sat, 07 Jun 2025 16:54:26 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="8b5701e9588c79f836e89c5073f428a2"; logging-data="3246325"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1/ve7ZA2uRvTmSEeOITb2os" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:GdgCshXSN9y32c75RFSonATA658= X-Antivirus-Status: Clean In-Reply-To: <1021jls$32035$1@dont-email.me> Content-Language: en-US X-Antivirus: Norton (VPS 250607-2, 6/7/2025), Outbound message Bytes: 2961 On 6/7/2025 9:51 AM, dbush wrote: > On 6/7/2025 10:32 AM, olcott wrote: >> The execution trace of HHH1(DDD) shows the divergence >> of DDD emulated by HHH from DDD emulated by HHH1. >> >> int main() >> { >> HHH1(DDD); >> } >> >> Shows that DDD emulated by HHH and DDD emulated by >> HHH1 diverges as soon as HHH begins emulating itself >> emulating DDD. >> >> *From the execution trace of HHH1(DDD) shown below* >> DDD emulated by HHH1 DDD emulated by HHH >> [00002183] push ebp [00002183] push ebp >> [00002184] mov ebp,esp [00002184] mov ebp,esp >> [00002186] push 00002183 ; DDD [00002186] push 00002183 ; DDD >> [0000218b] call 000015c3 ; HHH [0000218b] call 000015c3 ; HHH >> *HHH1 emulates DDD once then HHH emulates DDD once, these match* >> >> The next instruction of DDD that HHH emulates is at >> the machine address of 00002183. >> >> The next instruction of DDD that HHH1 emulates is at >> the machine address of 00002190. > > False. > > The next instruction of DDD that both HHH and HHH1 emulates is at the > machine address of 000015c3, *That is not an instruction of DDD* *That is not an instruction of DDD* *That is not an instruction of DDD* *That is not an instruction of DDD* _DDD() [00002183] 55 push ebp [00002184] 8bec mov ebp,esp [00002186] 6883210000 push 00002183 ; push DDD [0000218b] e833f4ffff call 000015c3 ; call HHH [00002190] 83c404 add esp,+04 [00002193] 5d pop ebp [00002194] c3 ret Size in bytes:(0018) [00002194] -- Copyright 2025 Olcott "Talent hits a target no one else can hit; Genius hits a target no one else can see." Arthur Schopenhauer