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From: Frank Krygowski <frkrygow@sbcglobal.net>
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Subject: Re: What the Constitution, Supreme Court say about 'due process' for
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Date: Sat, 7 Jun 2025 22:21:13 -0400
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On 6/7/2025 9:11 AM, Roger Merriman wrote:
> Shadow <Sh@dow.br> wrote:
>> On Fri, 06 Jun 2025 12:37:37 -0400, Catrike Ryder
>> <Soloman@old.bikers.org> wrote:
>>
>>> On Fri, 06 Jun 2025 13:20:03 -0300, Shadow <Sh@dow.br> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Fri, 06 Jun 2025 11:23:46 -0400, Catrike Ryder
>>>> <Soloman@old.bikers.org> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Fri, 06 Jun 2025 12:11:02 -0300, Shadow <Sh@dow.br> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Fri, 6 Jun 2025 07:55:01 -0500, AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Meanwhile, with about 400,000,000 firearms, we suffer about
>>>>>>> 41,000 firearm deaths all together (including suicide and
>>>>>>> negligent discharge).
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> https://deadorkicking.com/death-statistics/us/2024/
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> compare other deaths in that link. All firearms deaths are
>>>>>>> greater than car crashes but less than falls.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Incredible. Firearms lead all causes of death, except for
>>>>>> natural causes and "poison/suicide/homicide". I find it strange that
>>>>>> "homicides and suicides" don't mention if guns were used,
>>>>>> Falls can be caused by any number of natural causes(but
>>>>>> usually isquemic brain/heart problems). I doubt many people were
>>>>>> deliberately pushed, so that goes under natural causes.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Seems the US has a very serious gun problem. And a poison
>>>>>> problem. Is that why people ask you "What's your poison?".
>>>>>>
>>>>>> PS The only way to decrease "natural causes" is by offering
>>>>>> free public medical care. And I don't think that's going to happen
>>>>>> with the current administration. Why the US has such terrible
>>>>>> statistics, in some cases worse than poor countries like Cuba.
>>>>>> []'s
>>>>>
>>>>> No such thing as free -------
>>>>
>>>> There is "pay your taxes" as opposed to "hide everything in
>>>> the Caymans, fsck fellow citizens". Most of the EU and Canada chose
>>>> the first option. Their life expectancy puts the US to shame,
>>>> []'s
>>>
>>> So far at least, they don't have the drug problems, the violent gangs,
>>> or the problems with single parent housholds.
>>
>> 	They probably do, but not to the extent the US does. Places
>> that have a really serious drug problem are so rare they tend to
>> become anecdotes. "Don't go to Amsterdam, too many heroin addicts
>> there!"
> 
> Have to say one of my young colleague went there recently on holiday she
> chatted about lots of things on her return, drug use wasn’t one of them!
> 
> I did warn her that do need to be more productive as pedestrian for bikes
> as so many! Particularly in comparison to the area of london my work/she
> lives in.
> 
> I’m sure it exists and I believe it’s very touristy now, I’ve not been this
> century I think?

We were there a few years ago, for several days. I saw no drug or social 
problems at all.


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