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From: Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid>
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why?
Date: Sun, 08 Jun 2025 09:53:28 +0100
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On 2025-06-08, Rich wrote:

> Borax Man <rotflol2@hotmail.com> wrote:
[...]
>> Open up many webpages and notice how much blank space is on the 
>> sides.  I've just gone to news.com.au, and HALF the screen is just 
>> blank white space.
>
> I just went to news.com.au, and only half of my one wide-screen monitor 
> is occupied by the Firefox window showing news.com.au.  The rest of the 
> wide screen shows two other Firefox windows that are presently 'behind' 
> the one displaying news.com.au.
>
> Now, in the news.com.au window, the HTML/CSS of news.com.au is itself 
> only using about 3/4 of the width of the window it has available, with 
> about a 1/4 width margin of whitespace on the right of the story slugs.  
> So yes, news.com.au is not trying to fill out the space they are given.  
> So whomever their "designer" was is at fault here.

That may be the designer understanding that beyond a point, using
*horizontal* space is a bad idea, unless they have something that
actually goes well with that.

>> Mobiles are portrait, heavily so, desktops widescreen, heavily so, so
>> this results in just a mismatch.
>
> And HTML is designed to adapt to whatever viewing portal it has 
> available.  That is if it were not for "designers" who have a "vision" 
> of how things should look "just so", and assume that everyone shares 
> their "vision" and then proceed to force HTML to bend to their 
> "vision".

HTML should never have evolved into the mess where sites prioritize
"looks the same everywhere" and where Google actively boosts sites which
*add* code to tell Google's browsers "it's okay to handle this as HTML
and 'zoom' as you see fit".

(The end result was that ad-ridden content scrappers ended up
boosted... and nowadays, with or without they intentionally screwing
search results for "more engagement", Google Web Search still seems to
prioritize useless javascript-ridden or https-enforcing websites over
more usable options.)

-- 
Nuno Silva