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Path: news.eternal-september.org!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.quux.org!weretis.net!feeder9.news.weretis.net!usenet.blueworldhosting.com!diablo1.usenet.blueworldhosting.com!nnrp.usenet.blueworldhosting.com!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: "Edward Rawde" <invalid@invalid.invalid> Newsgroups: sci.electronics.design Subject: Re: Mid-span ethernet monitor Date: Sun, 8 Jun 2025 12:10:24 -0400 Organization: BWH Usenet Archive (https://usenet.blueworldhosting.com) Lines: 35 Message-ID: <1024cll$2umt$1@nnrp.usenet.blueworldhosting.com> References: <1020c8h$2oq18$1@dont-email.me> <1021obu$1rm1$1@nnrp.usenet.blueworldhosting.com> <lKm*MvweA@news.chiark.greenend.org.uk> Injection-Date: Sun, 8 Jun 2025 16:10:29 -0000 (UTC) Injection-Info: nnrp.usenet.blueworldhosting.com; logging-data="96989"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@blueworldhosting.com" Cancel-Lock: sha1:Bdx5eXfHOnyTNVXVy0SS8SY2dWE= sha256:7e1dBcTWY9/EzweSu2YWa2xaFOlFlUgFxlowPxlhgzI= sha1:JedcU0grWN5LFbN/jMuTsAZ4Gko= sha256:EndoTM7rIfmUEo4IFsm6uvq1oXptfuJGwTArRCzv2ec= X-RFC2646: Format=Flowed; Original X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.6157 X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5931 "Theo" <theom+news@chiark.greenend.org.uk> wrote in message news:lKm*MvweA@news.chiark.greenend.org.uk... > Edward Rawde <invalid@invalid.invalid> wrote: >> "Don Y" <blockedofcourse@foo.invalid> wrote in message news:1020c8h$2oq18$1@dont-email.me... >> >I need a device that can sit midspan (at a "splice point") and monitor >> > an ethernet connection for integrity. At the very least, that continuity >> > exists to both ends of the span. >> > >> > While these are PoE/PoE+ drops, I don't want to place any significant >> > burden on the PSEs; an external power supply is therefor likely. >> >> In that case I'd just put an unmanaged four port non PoE switch at mid run >> and look into getting access to the LEDs on the switch which tell me what >> the link is doing. >> The last design I did which had an ethernet port used KS8721BL > > Won't that prevent PoE passing through the link? This switch will terminate > the PoE and won't pass power or PoE signalling through to the far end. Yes you're right a PoE passthrough switch would be needed. https://www.google.com/search?&q=poe+passthrough+switch&udm=2 > > I suppose you could have some kind of relay box that normally passes the > line through but interposes an ethernet switch (or something else) in the > middle for testing purposes. When you're in test mode the PoE drops, but > maybe you don't mind that. Or maybe you do a PoE receiver and PoE injector > to let PoE pass the tester switch. Some switches can do pair tests: > https://www.engineerkhan.com/networking/testing-an-ethernet-cable-from-a-cisco-switch/ > > Don't know what a relay would do to signal integrity though. > (it probably has to be mechanical due to isolation requirements) > > Theo