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From: BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com>
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Subject: Re: Los Angeles Has Surrendered
Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2025 03:17:02 -0000 (UTC)
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On Jun 9, 2025 at 7:52:00 PM PDT, "moviePig" <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:

> On 6/9/2025 10:05 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>  On Jun 9, 2025 at 5:40:44 PM PDT, "Dimensional Traveler" <dtravel@sonic.net>
>>  wrote:
>>  
>>>  On 6/9/2025 8:36 AM, Adam H. Kerman wrote:
>>>>    Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> wrote:
>>>>>    On 6/9/2025 5:33 AM, Adam H. Kerman wrote:
>>>>>>    BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:
>>>>    
>>>>>>>    Encouraged by the mayor and city council, over the weekend, violent
>>>>>>>    leftist protesters took to the streets and attacked police and
>>>>>>>    federal agents while they were in the performance of making legal
>>>>>>>    and constitutional arrests. This, of course, is the very definition
>>>>>>>    of insurrection under the U.S. Code but none of our legacy media came
>>>>>>>    anywhere close to using that term to describe it.  Insurrection is a
>>>>>>>    crime they apparently believe only conservatives can commit. . . .
>>>>    
>>>>>>    Over Governor Newsom's objections, Trump federalized and deployed the
>>>>>>    California national guard. Newsom said army troops were unnecessary but
>>>>>>    police have been using anti-riot tactics, so what's the difference. The
>>>>>>    violent protests have continued for three days. News reports say that
>>>>>>    national guard troops have been deployed to protect federal property. If
>>>>>>    that's all they are being used for, I don't see how that usurps
>>>>>>    federalism. Newsom is going to court this morning anyway.
>>>>    
>>>>>>    Police declared all of downtown Los Angeles "an unlawful assembly area".
>>>>>>    Why didn't they just declare a straight-forward curfew? What does that
>>>>>>    mean for a building owner trying to get security guards deployed?
>>>>    
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2025/06/08/national-guard-los-angeles-protests-live-updates/84103374007/
>>>>    
>>>>>    Reports I had read indicated there were all of 100 protesters.
>>>>    
>>>>    That was Friday. Numerous other people began protesting over the next
>>>>    several days.
>>>>    
>>>  In part because of the overboard heavy handed Trump response.
>>  
>>  Oh, baloney. There's nothing heavy-handed about bringing in troops to
>> protect
>>  federal property during a riot. This same thing happened in 2020 when Antifa
>>  goons spent more than 150 days trying to burn down the federal courthouse in
>>  Portland every single night while the local police did nothing to stop them.
>>  It was up to the half dozen FPS officers on duty to protect the place, so
>>  Trump sent in federal agents from across the country to back them up, and
>> just
>>  like you've done here, the leftists immediately blamed Trump's attempt to
>>  enforce the law and protect federal property as 'provocative' and
>>  'heavy-handed'.
>>  
>>  It's hilarious how you guys blame Trump for the dumpster fire Democrat-run
>>  cities have become, despite there being no constitutional authority for the
>>  federal government to usurp police power from state and local governments.
>> The
>>  president literally has no authority to do anything about it, yet the one
>> time
>>  he did try and address the one small part of the problem he did have
>> authority
>>  over-- protecting federal property from rioters trying to destroy it-- and
>> the
>>  Left shit kittens and demanded he withdraw the 'troops' and stay out of it.
>>  
>>  Even those on this newsgroup were trying to pull this nonsense:
>>  
>>  On 9/28/2020 01:19 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>    On 9/27/2020  10:11 AM suzeeq <suzee@imbris.com> wrote:
>>  
>>>>  Portland was a trial run for how much he [Trump] could get away with.
>>  
>>>  How much he could get away with?!?!
>>  
>>>  Trump sent federal cops to stop a federal courthouse and other federal
>>>  buildings from being burned down by people whose express intent and actions
>>>  indicated that's exactly what they were trying to do. And then he withdrew
>>>  them after the city and state promised to do the job they'd been failing to
>>>  do and protect the courthouse, a promise they almost immediately
>>>  reneged on.
>>  
>>>  Only in 2020 could stopping arsonists from burning down government
>>>  buildings be considered controversial or something the president was
>>>  'trying to get away with'.
>>  
>>>  Meanwhile, those same 'mostly peaceful' protesters barricaded the
>>>  doors to a police station and then tried to light it on fire with about
>>>  three dozen people inside-- an attempted mass murder-- and the
>>>  mayor and the D.A. did literally nothing about it.
>>  
>>>  But Trump is the bad guy here, trying to 'get away with' something.
>>  
>>>  The police/NG are also deliberately shooting reporters/journalists.  For
>>>  the moment with rubber bullets but just the fact that they are picking
>>>  them out specifically to shoot is extremely troubling.
>>  
>>  Notice how Dimensional doesn't seem to be "extremely troubled" by the
>>  widespread violence committed by the rioters.
> 
> Yes.  While the rioters break laws, the cops gut principles.

Exactly what principles have been gutted by the police in Los Angeles over the
last three days?