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Subject: Re: Los Angeles Has Surrendered
Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2025 11:04:27 -0400
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On 6/9/2025 11:17 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
> On Jun 9, 2025 at 7:52:00 PM PDT, "moviePig" <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:
> 
>> On 6/9/2025 10:05 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>>   On Jun 9, 2025 at 5:40:44 PM PDT, "Dimensional Traveler" <dtravel@sonic.net>
>>>   wrote:
>>>   
>>>>   On 6/9/2025 8:36 AM, Adam H. Kerman wrote:
>>>>>     Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> wrote:
>>>>>>     On 6/9/2025 5:33 AM, Adam H. Kerman wrote:
>>>>>>>     BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:
>>>>>     
>>>>>>>>     Encouraged by the mayor and city council, over the weekend, violent
>>>>>>>>     leftist protesters took to the streets and attacked police and
>>>>>>>>     federal agents while they were in the performance of making legal
>>>>>>>>     and constitutional arrests. This, of course, is the very definition
>>>>>>>>     of insurrection under the U.S. Code but none of our legacy media came
>>>>>>>>     anywhere close to using that term to describe it.  Insurrection is a
>>>>>>>>     crime they apparently believe only conservatives can commit. . . .
>>>>>     
>>>>>>>     Over Governor Newsom's objections, Trump federalized and deployed the
>>>>>>>     California national guard. Newsom said army troops were unnecessary but
>>>>>>>     police have been using anti-riot tactics, so what's the difference. The
>>>>>>>     violent protests have continued for three days. News reports say that
>>>>>>>     national guard troops have been deployed to protect federal property. If
>>>>>>>     that's all they are being used for, I don't see how that usurps
>>>>>>>     federalism. Newsom is going to court this morning anyway.
>>>>>     
>>>>>>>     Police declared all of downtown Los Angeles "an unlawful assembly area".
>>>>>>>     Why didn't they just declare a straight-forward curfew? What does that
>>>>>>>     mean for a building owner trying to get security guards deployed?
>>>>>     
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2025/06/08/national-guard-los-angeles-protests-live-updates/84103374007/
>>>>>     
>>>>>>     Reports I had read indicated there were all of 100 protesters.
>>>>>     
>>>>>     That was Friday. Numerous other people began protesting over the next
>>>>>     several days.
>>>>>     
>>>>   In part because of the overboard heavy handed Trump response.
>>>   
>>>   Oh, baloney. There's nothing heavy-handed about bringing in troops to
>>> protect
>>>   federal property during a riot. This same thing happened in 2020 when Antifa
>>>   goons spent more than 150 days trying to burn down the federal courthouse in
>>>   Portland every single night while the local police did nothing to stop them.
>>>   It was up to the half dozen FPS officers on duty to protect the place, so
>>>   Trump sent in federal agents from across the country to back them up, and
>>> just
>>>   like you've done here, the leftists immediately blamed Trump's attempt to
>>>   enforce the law and protect federal property as 'provocative' and
>>>   'heavy-handed'.
>>>   
>>>   It's hilarious how you guys blame Trump for the dumpster fire Democrat-run
>>>   cities have become, despite there being no constitutional authority for the
>>>   federal government to usurp police power from state and local governments.
>>> The
>>>   president literally has no authority to do anything about it, yet the one
>>> time
>>>   he did try and address the one small part of the problem he did have
>>> authority
>>>   over-- protecting federal property from rioters trying to destroy it-- and
>>> the
>>>   Left shit kittens and demanded he withdraw the 'troops' and stay out of it.
>>>   
>>>   Even those on this newsgroup were trying to pull this nonsense:
>>>   
>>>   On 9/28/2020 01:19 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>>     On 9/27/2020  10:11 AM suzeeq <suzee@imbris.com> wrote:
>>>   
>>>>>   Portland was a trial run for how much he [Trump] could get away with.
>>>   
>>>>   How much he could get away with?!?!
>>>   
>>>>   Trump sent federal cops to stop a federal courthouse and other federal
>>>>   buildings from being burned down by people whose express intent and actions
>>>>   indicated that's exactly what they were trying to do. And then he withdrew
>>>>   them after the city and state promised to do the job they'd been failing to
>>>>   do and protect the courthouse, a promise they almost immediately
>>>>   reneged on.
>>>   
>>>>   Only in 2020 could stopping arsonists from burning down government
>>>>   buildings be considered controversial or something the president was
>>>>   'trying to get away with'.
>>>   
>>>>   Meanwhile, those same 'mostly peaceful' protesters barricaded the
>>>>   doors to a police station and then tried to light it on fire with about
>>>>   three dozen people inside-- an attempted mass murder-- and the
>>>>   mayor and the D.A. did literally nothing about it.
>>>   
>>>>   But Trump is the bad guy here, trying to 'get away with' something.
>>>   
>>>>   The police/NG are also deliberately shooting reporters/journalists.  For
>>>>   the moment with rubber bullets but just the fact that they are picking
>>>>   them out specifically to shoot is extremely troubling.
>>>   
>>>   Notice how Dimensional doesn't seem to be "extremely troubled" by the
>>>   widespread violence committed by the rioters.
>>
>> Yes.  While the rioters break laws, the cops gut principles.
> 
> Exactly what principles have been gutted by the police in Los Angeles over the
> last three days?

The extreme protections we purport to afford journalists.