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Path: news.eternal-september.org!eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Frank Krygowski <frkrygow@sbcglobal.net> Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.tech Subject: Re: What the Constitution, Supreme Court say about 'due process' for Trump deportees: Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2025 12:33:22 -0400 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 51 Message-ID: <1029moi$1bc5q$1@dont-email.me> References: <1il14k1qafnttu1oeqhfg0qpdfuc6c3o93@4ax.com> <101sluu$1maru$1@dont-email.me> <pbq0Q.746378$qmJf.738823@fx16.iad> <10204bo$2javi$4@dont-email.me> <1020f1h$2pd7f$3@dont-email.me> <1022rae$3jak1$2@dont-email.me> <10244ju$3s1io$4@dont-email.me> <10247qm$3svis$2@dont-email.me> <1024cm2$3u4uq$1@dont-email.me> <10256um$4dts$1@dont-email.me> <1025982$4pr1$3@dont-email.me> <1025ns1$bdcs$4@dont-email.me> <1026bcg$330rl$10@dont-email.me> <1026upd$jv4p$1@dont-email.me> <4r0e4kla3n7ppmqmklnbav1ng9eql9lc12@4ax.com> <1027gin$oc0i$2@dont-email.me> <1028soi$330rl$11@dont-email.me> <1029ans$18lgg$1@dont-email.me> <1029h1v$jice$7@dont-email.me> Reply-To: frkrygow@gmail.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2025 18:33:23 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="d85af505652ea3eef7e893fae8c25cc5"; logging-data="1421498"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1+E3yMMlDO3x/CnenloXpcekb4QpiGBafY=" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:2YfRgqjGylQTMHuMeOiclKOUs4w= Content-Language: en-US In-Reply-To: <1029h1v$jice$7@dont-email.me> On 6/10/2025 10:55 AM, Zen Cycle wrote: > On 6/10/2025 9:08 AM, AMuzi wrote: >> >> https://www.nbclosangeles.com/news/la-county-and-state-to-purge-15- >> million-inactive-voters-from-rolls/6866/ > > Inactive voters are registered voters who have not voted in a certain > number of previous elections. Obviously, they had no effect on the > election. > >> >> https://apnews.com/article/ohio-voters-citizenship- >> referrals-42799a379bdda8bca7201d6c42f99c65 > > Per that link, there were 138 "non-ohio citizens" out of 8 million votes > cast. > >> >> https://www.illinoisreview.com/illinoisreview/2017/09/chicago-more- >> votes-than-registered-voters.html > > This was a right wing media ruse, where cook county votes being tallied > in Chicago - because that's where cook county votes are tallied - > outnumbered the the total number of registered voters in Chicago. > > welll.....duuuuuhhhhhh. > > >> >> To "not significant numbers" I say our elections are routinely decided >> on small fractions of 1%. > The evidence is not there to support any accusation that a close > election was decided by illegal votes. And the right wing strategies to correct this alleged problem almost invariably hinge on making it more difficult for poor, or minority, or legitimate immigrant people to vote. Andrew has said something like he'd rather see a guilty person go free rather than have an innocent person executed, or words to that effect. That is, we should presume innocence unless guilt is proven. To extend that logic to voting, we shouldn't use the _myth_ of significant voter fraud to deprive innocent people of their right to vote. I don't believe this controversy is a big issue in other developed countries. It's another way the right wing manufactures imaginary problems in America. -- - Frank Krygowski