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From: Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com>
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Subject: Re: Yet again - Apple sherlocks functionali - copying - instead of
 innovating
Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2025 14:57:58 -0700
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On 2025-06-12 13:33, Your Name wrote:
> On 2025-06-12 15:05:14 +0000, Tyrone said:
>> On Jun 12, 2025 at 10:05:11 AM EDT, "Jolly Roger" <jollyroger@pobox.com>
>> wrote:
>>> On 2025-06-12, Tyrone <none@none.none> wrote:
>>>> On Jun 12, 2025 at 8:34:24 AM EDT, "Chris" <ithinkiam@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> wrote:
>>>>>> On 2025-06-11 22:46:24 +0000, Tom Elam said:
>>>>>>> On 6/11/2025 1:00 PM, Alan wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 2025-06-11 09:24, Marion wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Yet again - Apple sherlocks functionality - copying - instead of
>>>>>>>>> innovating which isn't a bad thing - it just proves that Apple 
>>>>>>>>> can't innovate.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> *Apple sherlocked these apps at WWDC 2025*
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> <https://www.macrumors.com/2025/06/11/apple-sherlocked-these- 
>>>>>>>>> apps-at-wwdc-2025/>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> MacRumors specifically talks about how Apple sherlocked several 
>>>>>>>>> apps at WWDC 2025 by introducing new features in iOS 26 and 
>>>>>>>>> macOS Tahoe that offer similar functionality to existing third- 
>>>>>>>>> party solutions. Examples mentioned include enhanced Spotlight 
>>>>>>>>> replacing features of Raycast and Launch Bar, Call Assist 
>>>>>>>>> acting like Robokiller and Truecaller, and Notes app for Apple 
>>>>>>>>> Watch replacing various third-party note-taking apps on the watch.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I repeat that it's not necessarily a bad thing when Apple 
>>>>>>>>> developers are forced to copy existing functionality because 
>>>>>>>>> htey can't innovate, but it does provide more evidence that 
>>>>>>>>> Apple long ago lost the ability to innovate.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> All Apple can do now to "innovate" is remove basic 
>>>>>>>>> functionality so that the poor Apple customer is forced to 
>>>>>>>>> figure out a way to buy it back.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Oh, and Apple usually innovates a half dozen "exciting new 
>>>>>>>>> emojis" too!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Subsuming functionality that exists in third party apps isn't
>>>>>>>> necessarily "sherlocking" them.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Alan, Apple has been taking ideas from other companies, improving 
>>>>>>> them, and making noise about their "innovation" for decades. Of 
>>>>>>> course, same is true of Google!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Bill Gates / Microsoft didn't even write DOS either. They bought it
>>>>>> from a real developer named Tim Patterson.
>>>>>
>>>>> And stole the idea of Windows from ..
>>>>>
>>>>> .. Apple!
>>>>
>>>> And Apple stole it from Xerox.
>>>
>>> Apple didn't steal anything from Xerox, fool.
>>
>> Then Microsoft did not steal anything from Apple either.  Fool. 
>> Everything was
>> "inspired by...". Right?
> 
> Depends on which version of "history" you want to believe. Some places / 
> people say Apple had permission to use Xerox Park's ideas, other say 
> they didn't.

There is no doubt: Apple did have permission.

> 
> Same with Windows, which although pushed by Apple's GUI, was actually 
> based on someone elses's work, and again depending on which version of 
> "history" you bleieve, was either bought up, stolen, or simply copied by 
> Microsoft ... which is of course how Microsoft has done everything is 
> has ever released (then completely screwed up).

Microsoft got a license to use SOME of Apple's GUI...

....and a judge misread what they were allowed to use because by the time 
it was adjudicated what Apple had created had become "obvious".