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Path: news.eternal-september.org!eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Mark J cleary <mcleary08@comcast.net> Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.tech Subject: Re: fast tires Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2025 17:49:01 -0500 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 50 Message-ID: <102flgs$2v6tk$1@dont-email.me> References: <BIl2Q.161967$IJr4.48702@fx47.iad> <mavuubFia70U1@mid.individual.net> <102evql$2pp4g$1@dont-email.me> <102f6gp$2m8bk$5@dont-email.me> <102ffdc$2tbi7$2@dont-email.me> <mb0uajFnc3qU1@mid.individual.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2025 00:49:02 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="c8bd809b6e9729f61bc5741b82762ee8"; logging-data="3120052"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1/kB4eIlr2rIjREj6aNtPc+" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:zQqIgSW2J+RslhAPyzDOAVQFKkA= In-Reply-To: <mb0uajFnc3qU1@mid.individual.net> Content-Language: en-US On 6/12/2025 4:14 PM, Roger Merriman wrote: > Frank Krygowski <frkrygow@sbcglobal.net> wrote: >> On 6/12/2025 2:32 PM, Zen Cycle wrote: >>> >>> It sounds as if you're running the 32s somewhat underinflated. Put >>> another 10 PSI in and see what you think. >> >> Experimenting with tire pressure sounds interesting, and would be a lot >> easier than comparing different sizes and brands of tires. >> >> But I'm skeptical of anyone's ability to "feel" the probably minor >> differences that would result from five or ten psi upward or downward. > > 10 psi is definitely very obvious certainly by gravel bike terms let alone > MTB! I started at 60psi realised it was rather too high 50 psi is > noticeable difference and indeed 45psi that I run now, with the difference > being it’s now tubeless vs tubes, if I’ve had a puncture and had to top up > a tyre I’m well aware that I’m a bit lower than normal and can feel it. > > Likewise on the MTB 10 psi or even 5psi is quite a difference, if your > running 20/30psi. > > If your running higher pressure and/or using touring type tyres the > differences will be less. Due to sidewalls and all that. >> >> I think the most practical way of detecting a difference would be to use >> a road with a consistent, slight downward slope. Coast down it >> repeatedly with different air pressure and note speeds. Try for days >> with no wind and consistent temperatures if possible. >> >> And keep in mind that if the difference is difficult to detect that way, >> it probably doesn't matter for most riding. >> >> > Certainly off road it’s a common green gravel folks mistake, aka running > tyre pressures 10 psi over what they need and pinging about the place! > > Roger Merriman > > I actually like a bit more pressure in the tires than some. I hate the feeling of the tire bottoming out or I go over bump and can feel the tire give a lot. It makes me uneasy and I always get the feeling I might be having a flat. When I go in drive way ending ride I have small drive way bump and that tells me things. If the tires is flexing more than I like I know it i air time. -- Deacon Mark