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Thomas Heger wrote:

> Am Donnerstag000012, 12.06.2025 um 15:33 schrieb Afif Lew:
>> Thomas Heger wrote:
>>> Am Donnerstag000012, 12.06.2025 um 00:19 schrieb Laurence Vassilikos:
>>>> Thomas Heger wrote:
>>>>> I call this scheme 'subjectivism', which means: if all observers are
>>>>> of equal rights, than all possible observers need to observe a
>>>>> different world. And all observers observe necessarily from their
>>>>> own position.
>>>> no, that's called 'objectivism'
>>> No, because I had called that schema 'subjectivism'.
>> 
>> you cant call shit as you want; that's already defined by consent.
> 
> I used the word 'subjectivism' for the rule, that all observers see the
> world 'subjective' (meaning: with their own eyes only).

you never know nor prove that; you are making shit as you go.