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From: Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com>
Newsgroups: sci.physics
Subject: Re: OK, .. Let's See :-)
Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2025 17:08:07 -0500
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On 6/13/25 5:07 PM, Physfitfreak wrote:
> On 6/13/25 4:06 PM, Physfitfreak wrote:
>> On 6/13/25 3:15 PM, Physfitfreak wrote:
>>> On 6/13/25 2:54 PM, Physfitfreak wrote:
>>>> On 6/13/25 12:23 PM, Physfitfreak wrote:
>>>>> On 6/13/25 11:43 AM, Physfitfreak wrote:
>>>>>> On 6/13/25 11:26 AM, Physfitfreak wrote:
>>>>>>> On 6/13/25 11:04 AM, Physfitfreak wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 6/13/25 12:19 AM, Physfitfreak wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On 6/12/25 10:57 PM, Physfitfreak wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On 6/12/25 9:51 PM, Physfitfreak wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> On 6/12/25 9:37 PM, Physfitfreak wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> On 6/12/25 8:06 PM, Physfitfreak wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 6/12/25 8:04 PM, Physfitfreak wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Israelis hit a few buildings inside Tehran. Probably 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> aiming at military and militia commanders.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> There are reports of several ballistic missiles launched 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> from Iran, going in the west direction. So they're not 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (yet) targeting American bases which are to the south.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Looks like the beginning of a long war :-) No matter what 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> happens to Iran, rest assured that Nazis are going to pay 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> some price from then on. Their wild party is over.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Of course a few of them might be going for American bases 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> inside Iraq and Syria. Iraqis are hearing big explosions!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Too soon to know anything yet.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> News channels are just repeating each other's unconfirmed 
>>>>>>>>>>>> hoopla. Too soon to know what has happened. Israelis' own 
>>>>>>>>>>>> news reports are as usual the least reliable.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Some civilian buildings were targeted. This much is certain. 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Part of a multistory building has collapsed, and a whole 
>>>>>>>>>>>> bunch of civilians inside looks like have lost their lives. 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Israelis will pay for that of course.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> And I don't see any clips or news bits about anything that 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Iranian missiles have done to Israel, so the news of 
>>>>>>>>>>>> missiles launched from Iran also might all be pure hoopla, 
>>>>>>>>>>>> cause I don't think Israelis could intercept all of them. No 
>>>>>>>>>>>> way.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> A few bombed spots can be seen from a very long distance in 
>>>>>>>>>>>> five or six different spots in Iran, but there's no news of 
>>>>>>>>>>>> what was hit other than again what Israelis are saying.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> The unconfirmed news also has it that an Iranian parliament 
>>>>>>>>>>>> member and another Iranian so-called "nuclear scientist" (he 
>>>>>>>>>>>> is just head of a low rank university - I doubt very much he 
>>>>>>>>>>>> has done anything in nuclear industry) have been killed.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Also unconfirmed news say a couple of top militia commanders 
>>>>>>>>>>>> have been killed. Even if true, I thought Israelis knew 
>>>>>>>>>>>> better, that killing a militia figure no matter how high in 
>>>>>>>>>>>> the commands does nothing to the militia structure and 
>>>>>>>>>>>> function. Militia is not regular military.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> There's no news of top military commanders having been 
>>>>>>>>>>>> killed other than one obvious Mossad-instigated piece saying 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Bagheri is killed while he is safe and sound in the war 
>>>>>>>>>>>> room, confirmed by reliable Iranian news sources.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> So at this point, until more reliable news gets here, I 
>>>>>>>>>>>> can't say that much has been done by Israelis at all. I have 
>>>>>>>>>>>> to wait for Iran's response to get some insight into exactly 
>>>>>>>>>>>> what Israelis have achieved this far.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> The main figures of the militia aren't the old farts at the 
>>>>>>>>>>>> top! So if the news of Salami having been killed is correct, 
>>>>>>>>>>>> it is of no consequence as he is always sick at home and 
>>>>>>>>>>>> every now and then gives an exaggerated piece of propaganda 
>>>>>>>>>>>> for the news. Israel might as well kill that loudmouth 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Lindsey Graham.. Hehe :) Same effect.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Nothing can damage the militia forces in Iran. That's why it 
>>>>>>>>>>>> is the nightmare of all the Nazis in the world.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Ok, a reliable news source said Iran knew about the attack 
>>>>>>>>>>> about one hour in advance via the Hezbollah of Lebanon.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> This could indicates Iranian defenses weren't surprised. If 
>>>>>>>>>>> they indeed suffered some, it was because they couldn't 
>>>>>>>>>>> defend themselves. But then there's no reliable piece of news 
>>>>>>>>>>> saying exactly what has suffered damages.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Civilians' videos only confirm civilian deaths, perhaps as 
>>>>>>>>>>> high as 100 or more in that collapsed apartment building in 
>>>>>>>>>>> Tehran. Right now there's nothing else to know for sure.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Oh, there are two more things "to know for sure". Israelis 
>>>>>>>>>> want war, and they got it. So here goes the second Saddam 
>>>>>>>>>> affair of the region.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Only now things are taking a right course :) I wonder what the 
>>>>>>>> level and extent of it is, but regardless of Iran and Iranians, 
>>>>>>>> Nazis have begun paying something for being Nazis. Free ride's 
>>>>>>>> over :)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Israelis (and Americans) are trying to claim credit on the extent 
>>>>>>> of intelligence on whereabouts of top military and militia 
>>>>>>> figures of Iran.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I think this is nothing but .. what do you call that?.. "free 
>>>>>>> riding". Such intelligence is _always_ provided by Iranian people 
>>>>>>> themselves. Iranians are a large collection of all sort of 
>>>>>>> people, some of them against the present form of government in 
>>>>>>> Iran. They do it free.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I do not think for a moment that Israelis or you Americans have 
>>>>>>> access to such intelligence by your own achievements. You don't 
>>>>>>> even pay for getting such intelligence. Iranians do it free. And 
>>>>>>> it has been so since after WWII, so it is nothing new or specific 
>>>>>>> to this form of government in Iran.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The big changes of 1979 in Iran also was the result of a certain 
>>>>>>> faction of Iranians who cooperated with Carter to destroy Shah's 
>>>>>>> government. It is always the Iranians who make the decision, not 
>>>>>>> you or your Nazi little Israel.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> And the coup of 1953?.. In one of my past blogs I went over it 
>>>>>>> very closely. It was all Iranians' doing. You only paid the bill 
>>>>>>> :) And even then you goofed up letting Churchil kill those 
>>>>>>> soldiers who protected Mosaddegh's house, resulting in losing 
>>>>>>> your embassy in Iran!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> You people, aren't careful enough to actually collect sensitive 
>>>>>>> intelligence on your own. You pay some to get it, but mostly in 
>>>>>>> the case of Iran you don't even pay for it. It comes to you by 
>>>>>>> itself.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
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