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From: "Fred. Zwarts" <F.Zwarts@HetNet.nl>
Newsgroups: comp.theory
Subject: Re: HHH(DD) does correctly reject its input as non-halting ---
VERIFIED FACT
Date: Sat, 14 Jun 2025 11:20:24 +0200
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Op 13.jun.2025 om 16:37 schreef olcott:
> On 6/13/2025 4:26 AM, Fred. Zwarts wrote:
>> Op 12.jun.2025 om 17:30 schreef olcott:
>>
>> Even after many corrections, Olcott repeated his claims without
>> learning anything from his previous errors.
>> Lack of knowledge does not make someone look stupid, but the
>> resistance against learning does.
>>
>>> int DD()
>>> {
>>> int Halt_Status = HHH(DD);
>>> if (Halt_Status)
>>> HERE: goto HERE;
>>> return Halt_Status;
>>> }
>>>
>>> It is a verified fact that DD() *is* one of the forms
>>> of the counter-example input as such an input would
>>> be encoded in C. Christopher Strachey wrote his in CPL.
>>>
>>> // rec routine P
>>> // §L :if T[P] go to L
>>> // Return §
>>> // https://academic.oup.com/comjnl/article/7/4/313/354243
>>> void Strachey_P()
>>> {
>>> L: if (HHH(Strachey_P)) goto L;
>>> return;
>>> }
>>>
>>> https://academic.oup.com/comjnl/article-abstract/7/4/313/354243?
>>> redirectedFrom=fulltext
>>>
>>> It *is* a verified fact DD correctly simulated by HHH
>>> cannot possibly reach its own "return" statement
>>> final halt state.
>>
>> Showing the failure of HHH to reach the end of the simulation.
>
> The code of the input to HHH(DD) specifies
> HHH simulates DD that calls HHH(DD)
> HHH simulates DD that calls HHH(DD)
> HHH simulates DD that calls HHH(DD)...
Counter factual, There are only two recursions.
Then HHH does a premature abort, missing the specification in the input
that the simulated HHH would also do a premature abort and halt.
That HHH is blind for this specification does not change the specification.
So, the following applies to you:
>
> That you can't understand this is merely a lack
> of sufficient tecnh9cal competence on your part.
>
> That you continue to fail to show all of the details
> of exactly how DD does reach its simulated "return"
> statement final halt state proves that you know you
> are not competent.
No, *you* fail to show how HHH reaches the correct end of the
simulation. We see that HHH fails to reach the end of a correct simulation.
That you think that a failure to reach the end of a simulation makes the
simulation correct, shows that you do not understand the basics of a
correct simulation.