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From: Chris Thompson <the_thompsons@earthlink.net>
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Subject: Re: Arkansas 10 commandments law suit filed
Date: Sat, 14 Jun 2025 21:45:47 -0400
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William Hyde wrote:
> Chris Thompson wrote:
>> Bob Casanova wrote:
>>> On Fri, 13 Jun 2025 21:42:38 -0400, the following appeared
>>> in talk.origins, posted by Chris Thompson
>>> <the_thompsons@earthlink.net>:
>>>
>>>> Bob Casanova wrote:
>>>>> On Thu, 12 Jun 2025 09:39:53 -0400, the following appeared
>>>>> in talk.origins, posted by WolfFan <akwolffan@zoho.com>:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Jun 12, 2025, Bob Casanova wrote
>>>>>> (in article<gvpk4kt6f2mcrbivm2cn28qvknv8ojpvjm@4ax.com>):
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Wed, 11 Jun 2025 19:53:19 -0500, the following appeared
>>>>>>> in talk.origins, posted by RonO<rokimoto557@gmail.com>:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> https://www.newwestrecord.ca/religion-news/families-file-suit-challenging-ar 
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> kansas-law-that-requires-ten-commandments-be-posted-in-classrooms-10797734 
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The plaintiffs are Jewish, Unitarian Universalists, or listed as
>>>>>>>> nonreligious. The Jewish plaintiffs do not what their kids to 
>>>>>>>> have to
>>>>>>>> be forced to be exposed to the Christian translation of the 10 
>>>>>>>> commandments.
>>>>>>> I'm curious; any take on how the "Christian translation"
>>>>>>> differs from the original, i.e., the Hebrew text?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Well, for one thing, there aren’t ten ‘commandments’; depending on 
>>>>>> how
>>>>>> you count, there are 12 to 15. For another, there are three seperate
>>>>>> listings, two in Exodus, one in Deuteronomy; see
>>>>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ten_Commandments for more. For a 
>>>>>> third, there
>>>>>> isn’t even just one Xian version; the official versions of the OT 
>>>>>> according
>>>>>> to Orthodox, Catholic, and Protestant bibles have differences. And 
>>>>>> none of
>>>>>> them are identical to the main Jewish version... and there are at 
>>>>>> least two
>>>>>> Jewish versions. The Wiki article noted above gives a quick look 
>>>>>> at some of
>>>>>> the main points. For details... well, way back in the depths of 
>>>>>> time I was
>>>>>> forced to take theology classes at the undergraduate level. I no 
>>>>>> longer have
>>>>>> the text, but it spent two chapters on the 10/12/15 commandments. 
>>>>>> Apparently
>>>>>> serious theologians find the differences to be significant.
>>>>>>
>>>>> Asked and answered; thanks. IMHO your last statement is the
>>>>> most significant; while details may differ I wouldn't have
>>>>> expected there to be "hill to die on" differences, but I'm
>>>>> no theologian.
>>>>
>>>> Don't be too sure. Jenny Geddes is always ready with her stool.
>>>>
>>> No idea who that is, or even why she didn't just provide a
>>> sample.
>>
>> Jenny Geddes was a Scottish woman in the 1600's. When King Charles (I 
>> believe the 2nd) tried to unify the churches of England and Scotland 
>> with a new Book of Common Prayer
> 
> Charles I.
> 
> Charles II was much too smart to try anything like that.  And as he 
> didn't share his father's beliefs, he had no motive to.
> 
> To be fair to Charles I, if he had he example of Charles I to learn 
> from, he would also have avoided that pitfall.
> 
> 
> William Hyde
> 

Thanks. Much as I try to keep them straight they start blending together 
after a bit.

Chris